Today marks 4 weeks post minimally invasive mitral valve surgery. For the past few days, I feel much more like myself. The pain at incision sites has decreased ...Read more
Today marks 4 weeks post minimally invasive mitral valve surgery. For the past few days, I feel much more like myself. The pain at incision sites has decreased to the point that I don’t notice it as soon as Tylenol wears off. Yesterday, I ran up a flight of stairs without even thinking about it. And, I have no bodily sensation of anxiety. Apparently that feeling in my heart that I thought was anxiety was my screwed up mitral valve! Yes, I still have worried thoughts but not with the miserable bodily sensations. And, I think about all the posts on this site about people anxious about surgery— and those are real worries— but I think it all is amplified in our mind because the bodily sensation of heart problems feel similar to the bodily sensations of anxiety.
C Ashes I’m really looking forward to what my body does after mitral repair /replacement surgery. It is a c ... Read more
C Ashes I’m really looking forward to what my body does after mitral repair /replacement surgery. It is a crazy life having MVP, just when you think you’re used to it, another symptom happens.
So good to know about running up flight of stairs .. good for you !
I’m looking forward to hitting the gym without the thoughts of fainting etc, and so much more :))
Michael Eichhorn Thanks for sharing Deb. You bring up an interesting point. I have been battling anxiety for years. Ne ... Read more
Michael Eichhorn Thanks for sharing Deb. You bring up an interesting point. I have been battling anxiety for years. Never took medication. I didn’t know I had valve disease. I was doing everything under the sun for natural anxiety remedies. Reiki, Massage, Meditation, exercise (seems that made it worse) and even Indian Sweat Lodges. I really thought I was crazy. Why was my anxiety so physically difficult? It’s kind of weird but now that I know that I have an Aortic Anuerysm and Bicuspid Valve, I am kind of relieved. I certainly have new anxiety about surgery but maybe the last year of anxiety has been physical?
Deb Lewis Michael, may your surgery bring you even more relief! I think the stories we tell ourselves about ou ... Read more
Deb Lewis Michael, may your surgery bring you even more relief! I think the stories we tell ourselves about our bodies physical sensations is fascinating. If you want to really geek out on this check out the book How Emotions Are Made by Lisa Feldman Barrett.
Anna Jones I have been battling anxiety too. In fact everyone says if I am not worried about something at any g ... Read more
Anna Jones I have been battling anxiety too. In fact everyone says if I am not worried about something at any given time, we need to call a doctor.
I just figured it is because I have been traumatized. I'll look forward to having calm moments after I heal from surgery.
Kim Lonergan I have been wondering if my heartburn, feeling of anxiety, chest tightness is the mitral valve sympto ... Read more
Kim Lonergan I have been wondering if my heartburn, feeling of anxiety, chest tightness is the mitral valve symptoms or not. It's so good to read your pits and have hope that after surgery those sensations will be gone. Sometimes I feel like it's all in my head.
I plan on going back to work part time five weeks after minimally invasive robotic assisted surgery. How has it gone for others going back to work?
C Ashes Thanks so much for your encouraging news. I’m gearing myself up for minimal invasive surgery & your ... Read more
C Ashes Thanks so much for your encouraging news. I’m gearing myself up for minimal invasive surgery & your story helps so much .. all the best for your first day :) 👍
Civita Fahey Deb, I worked part time at 4 weeks at home. I had a mini incision with a full sternotomy.. it was fin ... Read more
Civita Fahey Deb, I worked part time at 4 weeks at home. I had a mini incision with a full sternotomy.. it was fine.. you get tired at first sitting at a computer, but,everyday is better.. Though when I went back full time at the office at 10 weeks, I was exhausted and had to take a nap every day for a week or so.
Barbara Wood I went back 1/2 days at 7-8 weeks. My job was not too strenuous, but I was on my feet - not a desk jo ... Read more
Barbara Wood I went back 1/2 days at 7-8 weeks. My job was not too strenuous, but I was on my feet - not a desk job. I took 30-45 min naps every afternoon, that really revived me!
Don L I work from home, and pretty low intensity....just emails and consultation phone calls.....so I was a ... Read more
Don L I work from home, and pretty low intensity....just emails and consultation phone calls.....so I was able to start back 2 weeks after Robotic. The first couple days back, after any long conversation I was tired.
For those of you considering or facing major travel for surgery:
I decided to have surgery far from home in ordering to have both a top ranked hospital and ...Read more
For those of you considering or facing major travel for surgery:
I decided to have surgery far from home in ordering to have both a top ranked hospital and be close to family. I don’t regret the decision and learned things along the way including:
1. In advance, no medical provider would give me a definite date on when I would be ready to fly home. The most they would offer is “that seems about right.” I was discharged 3 days post surgery and stayed with family for 5 more nights— meaning I flew 9 days
2. We booked our flights directly through the airline and paid a little bit more to be able to have tickets that had no penalties for changes or cancellations. This provided peace of mind.
3. Ask for a wheelchair for navigating the airport on the flight home. Between feeling achy and less spry, I felt vulnerable to being jostled. Going through airport security in a wheelchair was a much more humane experience than the normal scene (which should be a timed Olympic event). I did not use the wheelchair to board the plane, but did pre-board with passengers needing extra time.
4. Try to fly earlier in the day. Since the surgery, pain has been worse and energy lower in the evening. Getting to our destination at midnight was hard.
Anna Jones Thank you. These are good points. I will be traveling too, and will keep them in mind.
When anxious, sometimes I obsess about stuff with the idea that if I have just the right thing I will feel better. On the other hand, I prefer not to accumulate ...Read more
When anxious, sometimes I obsess about stuff with the idea that if I have just the right thing I will feel better. On the other hand, I prefer not to accumulate stuff nor do I want to be wasteful on many levels. This leads to a lot of thinking/research for even small purchases. In fact, I found this blog while googling something about what to pack. So here is my list:
1. I have seriously bonded with my slippers which were advertised as “snow sneakers” on Amazon. The brand is Ryka. At around $30, it was a mid-range price. The grippy sneaker-like bottom gave me so much confidence during those first few hospital walks. Bonus: I wore them to pre-post appointments.
2. Men’s boxer shorts 1 size too big— something I read about on this blog. As soon as the catheter came out, the boxers went on and I experienced the simple joy of knowing my butt was covered. Nurses were easily able to look at the groin with the loose boxers.
3. Smooth Move tea. It is reliable helper for me. Get Regular tea also works. I checked with my medical team before using.
4. Maxi pads. As I had been warned, my period came several days early. And on blood thinners.
5. High cut undies. The Haines 4 pack at Target. 1 size too big. These are perfect with groin injury.
What I did not need:
1. Book. I love to read but could not on painkillers. I did use my phone with headphones to listen to books, podcasts, music, meditations.
2. Knitting! What was I thinking? I had no concentration plus the yarn would have tangled in the IVs
3. Bra. Following the advice of someone else on this blog, I bought a bra without underwire. I can’t face it yet. Perhaps I will know when I am ready for work when I can not sweat putting on a bra. Ok— because I know comfort without a bra depends so much on size, I am a 36C. Currently, I am living in camisoles a size too large.
What I wish I had:
Very soft, very light scarf to drape around neck wounds
Meredith Bray Excellent advice! I was glad I had my boxers. I wish I had chapstik/lip balm with me.
Sonia M Thank you for sharing. They were helpful. The snow sneakers look so comfy. At the time I had my surg ... Read more
Sonia M Thank you for sharing. They were helpful. The snow sneakers look so comfy. At the time I had my surgery, I even tried to wear surgical bra but I couldn’t It really hurts...specially during the first month. I found the shoe brand “FitFlop” extremely comfortable as well. The only thing I wish I took with me from home was my own pillow. I had such a bad neck pain during my stay at the hospital.
Rita Savelis Nice post.
I hear you on the bras. Not possible for a good while after OHS. But who cares?
Civita Fahey So true.. things you think you need, you don't! I also had a pair of boxers as I thought, those john ... Read more
Civita Fahey So true.. things you think you need, you don't! I also had a pair of boxers as I thought, those johnnies have openings that don't always close and I wanted to make sure I had some privacy. I brought my ipad, didn't use it. I also used my iphone with headphones to get me some white noise so I could sleep a little and to listen to some music. Funny, I was able to put a bra on with underwires.. but,not something that was a must..
Bonnie Stone-Hope I also needed my iPhone. Did not want ANY company while in hospital, except immediate family, but ke ... Read more
Bonnie Stone-Hope I also needed my iPhone. Did not want ANY company while in hospital, except immediate family, but kept in touch with texting.
A friend had given me a pashmina, bright colours, and it was perfect for "feeling pretty" by hiding many tubes.
Wore a very loose bright coloured top rather than a bra, over top of my hospital gown. Big enough to provide modesty, better than a housecoat, as very lightweight.
Bonnie Stone-Hope Also, the shoes I chose were comfy velcro strap rubber sole, casual shoes, 1 size too big which was g ... Read more
Bonnie Stone-Hope Also, the shoes I chose were comfy velcro strap rubber sole, casual shoes, 1 size too big which was good as my feet were swollen for the first few days.
I am documenting my experience with pain early after surgery so that it might be helpful to others.
The sources of pain in the immediate aftermath of surgery ...Read more
I am documenting my experience with pain early after surgery so that it might be helpful to others.
The sources of pain in the immediate aftermath of surgery had a few locations:
1. Back pain focused around right shoulder
2. Incision sites around right breast and right armpit
3. Ribs
Details: The shoulder pain is likely due to positioning during surgery. I am told it is a common complaint and goes away in a week. Aside from medications, I found Lidocaine patches and heat pad and gentle massage from family helpful.
Right breast: It feels like my right breast is encased in cement. Tender. This spot definitely feels better each day.
Ribs: upper part of ribs hurt when inhaling while chest drainage tube is in. Once the tubes came out that area is sore but not painful.
Now about pain medication in the hospital: USE IT. I tend to overthink things and have a hard time figuring out what I want. So the question of rate my pain on a scale from 1-10 was hard. As long as chest tubes were in my pain was probably never lower than 2. As long as IVs are in, nurses can push a medication into you blood steam for fast relief. In the ICU, nursing was so close by and that I had relief at my first twinge. On the progressive care unit things took longer- the response to my reluctant use of a call button was fast but then the nurse would leave while she figured out which med and got it. Also, different nurses responded at different times and would start talking with out reading the chart. It was frustrating and I was in pain. The answer for me was to have a pump with a medication I could administer on my own. I would strongly recommend this at least until chest tubes out!!!
Things I wish I knew before:
- the goal is to be able to walk and move as much as possible. Use meds to keep pain down to move more.
- accept that between the tubes and the surgery incisions, my body was seriously traumatized. It was ok for me to rely on all the pain medication available to me— at least in the hospital
- avoid chasing the pain by letting people know how much I hurt sooner. At one point on the progressive care unit, before having a pump I could control, my pain crept from 2 to 4 before I hit the call button and was at a 6 before meds finally administered. After that it took awhile to come down—this is chasing pain. Once I could control the flow myself, I could act at the first twinge of a 3. I could also dose myself before a walk or before various procedures. Problem solved!
Next post will have some details of stuff I packed that was useful.
Helen Daw Everything you wrote is correct.
Nurses come to your help at different pace. I had one who was extrem ... Read more
Helen Daw Everything you wrote is correct.
Nurses come to your help at different pace. I had one who was extremely quick and then I had one that I had to call a couple of times to come. So I learned during my 5 day stay in the hospital that once I felt a little pain, I asked for medication which didn’t happen often. Glad you are doing well
Fr Dowling I'm glad you posted that, Deb...very good points.
I am having a lot of pain still around the incisio ... Read more
Fr Dowling I'm glad you posted that, Deb...very good points.
I am having a lot of pain still around the incision on the right breast...actually I think I have a seroma or something...I thought it might be scar tissue but I now think not. I'm going back to the surgeon tomorrow to double check.
I felt so good I think I did too much too soon. Continue to heal well and remember NOT to over-do it.
Steve Farthing Was your mitral repair performed endoscopically?
Deb Lewis Steve— it was a minimally invasive robotic assisted repair
Don L Really appreciate your posts Deb, excellent perspective!
Bob Fessler I had no pain other than once the 1st night in ICU so it is hard for me to relate. They took care of ... Read more
Bob Fessler I had no pain other than once the 1st night in ICU so it is hard for me to relate. They took care of it when I asked for additional relief. They gave me oxycodone for 2 days after the ICU and that was all I needed. Glad to hear your experience but it was definitely not mine. I was mostly pain free.
Rita Savelis Minimally invasive can often be painful and especially for women because of the breast tissue the sur ... Read more
Rita Savelis Minimally invasive can often be painful and especially for women because of the breast tissue the surgeon goes through.
The sternum cut is usually not painful, but as you say those who are positioned in difficult positions can have muscle pain.
Pain is very very individual and as you say it is important to get the relief you need because it is important to sleep and to move around, etc. It's too bad that pain relief gets such a bad rap these days, or that many try to be stronger than they have to be.
Again it is so individual which is why they ask you to rate it on a scale of 1 to 10, so that as time goes by you compare only to your own personal last rating.
I had no pain (just lots and lots and lots of discomfort) but took morphine in ICU to forget what had just happened to me. Afterwards I didn't take pain relief although it was offered everyday for a month (I was in hospital a month).
Surgery was on Wednesday and I was out of the hospital on Saturday. I am 49, in good health except for the mitral valve issue found just 3 months ago. I do ...Read more
Surgery was on Wednesday and I was out of the hospital on Saturday. I am 49, in good health except for the mitral valve issue found just 3 months ago. I do yoga and walk but not an athlete! My repair was successful with only “trivial regurgitation.” Going into my surgeon was quite confident it could be repaired rather than replaced.
Day of surgery: 5:30 am arrival; 7:30 am surgery scheduled. By about noon, off bypass, around 3 in ICU with family. From that point on, either my husband or my sister stayed by my side my entire stay. When my sister asked the ICU nurse if she could stay through the night, the nurse said she couldn’t sleep there and then offfered her a blanket and ignored her sleeping in the recliner next to me.
Intubation came out in the OR. In the ICU, I still had attached to my neck were 4 IVs, 1IV in each arm, 2 drainage tubes in my chest, and a catheter. Incisions around my chest and groin were bandaged.
I left the ICU by about 10 am the day after surgery. Fairly soon after arriving on the progressive care unit, 1 chest tube and all the neck IVs were removed and the catheter came out later that night. The next day the 2nd chest tube came out. I was able to leave the next day!
I will write another post about pain another day. I craved details and while I know everyone’s experience is different I hope some details help some people.
Don L Hi Deb, so great to hear your update and that you are home and recovering so well! like you I crave ... Read more
Don L Hi Deb, so great to hear your update and that you are home and recovering so well! like you I crave details as well and do not like surprises too much. My robotic mitral valve surgery is this Wed.
Helen Daw SO happy to read you update. Welcome to the recovery side and please keep us posted on your progress. ... Read more
Helen Daw SO happy to read you update. Welcome to the recovery side and please keep us posted on your progress. All the best!!
Anna Jones Thank you for your report. I crave the details too and appreciate reading your experiences.
I just spent a full day of pre-op activities and received final approval for robotic-assisted mitral valve repair on Wednesday. So far, my experience at Mayo ...Read more
I just spent a full day of pre-op activities and received final approval for robotic-assisted mitral valve repair on Wednesday. So far, my experience at Mayo in Minnesota has been excellent. I know I am in this huge facility and sense thousands of other people but the patient experience attentive, focused, and obsessive care around preventing infection!
Don L Hi Deb, my pre-op next Monday for robotic assisted next Wednesday in Plano, TX; Please share your ex ... Read more
Don L Hi Deb, my pre-op next Monday for robotic assisted next Wednesday in Plano, TX; Please share your experience as you feel up to it.
Carmel Power All the best to you both. I had robotic minimally invasive mitral valve surgery a month ago. I spent ... Read more
Carmel Power All the best to you both. I had robotic minimally invasive mitral valve surgery a month ago. I spent 10 days in hospital as I had a few issues but I now feel pretty good. Remember everyone’s journey is individual but we all seem to get there in the end. Hope you both have an easy time of it all! C
Bonnie Stone-Hope Best wishes on your surgery. Will look forward to reading your posts after your procedure.
For those of you who have recovered from robotic assisted mitral valve repair surgery, I am wondering about what to expect at the incision sites, particularly ...Read more
For those of you who have recovered from robotic assisted mitral valve repair surgery, I am wondering about what to expect at the incision sites, particularly in the first few weeks. Also, how is range of arm motion impacted in the first few weeks? Will I be able to pull a shirt on over my head?
Phyllis Petersen Hi Deb, I had robotic MVr 10/13/16. The exercise physiologist at the hospital gave me arm lift stretc ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen Hi Deb, I had robotic MVr 10/13/16. The exercise physiologist at the hospital gave me arm lift stretches, plus other stretches to do. It's difficult at first, but I was surprised that I was able to get shirts on over my head. It isn't long before it gets much easier, but will still be sore for several weeks, although I was driving 4 weeks after surgery (short bouts, partly because I tired too easily). My main incision was done along the line where the breast meets the side. There were other smaller incisions from the robot and drain tubes, etc. The heart lung incision is the weirdest. At first it looked like a finger under the skin. That reduces and fades over time too. Feel free to ask any questions you'd like! Phyllis
Tracy Simmons Hi Deb. I did not have robotic surgery, but did have the less invasive procedure for mitral valve re ... Read more
Tracy Simmons Hi Deb. I did not have robotic surgery, but did have the less invasive procedure for mitral valve repair. As Phyllis mentioned, while in the hospital, a physical therapist stopped by and provided some exercises to maintain arm mobility. Regarding pulling a shirt over my head, I packed and used a lot of oversized button up shirts and zippered exercise jackets. I'm sure I could have pulled shirts over my head, but it was much more comfortable not to :). My incision is about 2 inches long just under my right breast and I don't even notice it anymore. I was very anxious with my first mammogram after my surgery, but no abnormal pain - amazing. I wish you the very best of luck!!
So good to know about running up flight of stairs .. good for you !
I’m looking forward to hitting the gym without the thoughts of fainting etc, and so much more :))
I just figured it is because I have been traumatized. I'll look forward to having calm moments after I heal from surgery.