For the women...Is there anyone out there who has had a hysterectomy after AVR? Looking for advice. I had AVR surgery in Feb 2017, mechanical valve. Im 45, ...Read more
For the women...Is there anyone out there who has had a hysterectomy after AVR? Looking for advice. I had AVR surgery in Feb 2017, mechanical valve. Im 45, and on on 5 mg of Coumadin, with 7.5 3 days of the week. I was diagnosed with PMDD years before, and have always had debilitating symptoms surrounding my cycle (depression, migraines for 7-10 days, and heavy bleeding.) Since surgery the bleeding is totally out of control. I'm home-bound for at least 2-3 days. I am scheduled for a hysterectomy next week and I am freaking out about surgery after being on Coumadin. Has anyone out there had one for this problem? Full or partial? My doc is saying partial will relieve the bleeding, but not the PMDD symptoms. But a full (taking out ovaries and all) will throw me into menopause and then I'll have to take estrogen which can cause clotting issues.? HELP!!!!!
Diane Maher Yes, Helen Daw had this surgery this fall. I am sorry that I don’t know the direct route to Helenâ ... Read more
Diane Maher Yes, Helen Daw had this surgery this fall. I am sorry that I don’t know the direct route to Helen’s guestbook so that you can send her a post regarding your questions but here is the long route. You will notice in your journal Catie B. sent you a post. If you click on Catie’s name, you will find Helen Daw’s name😊
Hi guys. I had surgery Feb 17. When I got home from hopsital, they were checking INR every 2 days. Today they came after 6 days, and my INR is 5.7. I haven't ...Read more
Hi guys. I had surgery Feb 17. When I got home from hopsital, they were checking INR every 2 days. Today they came after 6 days, and my INR is 5.7. I haven't changed any medicines. No idea why it shot up in a weeks time. Other than eating greens, is there anything I can do to bring it down? Have any of you had symptoms with a high INR? I had been feeling weak and light-headed past 2 days, but figured it was the Lopressor. The home health nurse told me that the potassium supplements could be the culprit? Not sure about that.
Catie B Are they having you omit any doses? Any changes usually take a few days to show up in bloodwork. Kal ... Read more
Catie B Are they having you omit any doses? Any changes usually take a few days to show up in bloodwork. Kale, collards and spinach are some of the foods with highest amounts of Vit. K.
My INR ran low, so I personally didn't have this struggle, the few months I was on Warfarn. They used to always tell my mom to eat collards for a couple days, which she normally avoided. I don't think she felt any different when her INR was high.
Melissa Houser I am a pediatrician, so I don't manage blood thinners in young, healthy children. However, I would e ... Read more
Melissa Houser I am a pediatrician, so I don't manage blood thinners in young, healthy children. However, I would expect you to need to avoid taking warfarin for some time, possibly a day or two, plus eating some greens. It seems it takes some time to get the INR right for some people. If you haven't already, I would talk to your doctor immediately about what to do.
Julie Guillaumin They will have me take 1 mg tonight. I was on 5 before. And check again in 2 days. I will def do gre ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin They will have me take 1 mg tonight. I was on 5 before. And check again in 2 days. I will def do greens tonight. Thanks. This is going to take some getting used to.
Melissa Houser I am sure it will. I am planning to get a mechanical heart valve in May, and my cardiologist recomme ... Read more
Melissa Houser I am sure it will. I am planning to get a mechanical heart valve in May, and my cardiologist recommended a home INR machine. Depending on how long you will be on warfarin, it may be worth having such a machine for your home, if you don't already. Not sure about insurance coverage, but I have seen them cost from $650 to $1200. Since I will be on warfarin forever after my surgery, I definitely see a home INR machine being worthwhile for me. I don't want to have to make time to get blood draws regularly, plus one can check INR's weekly or even more frequently at home, if needed. Take care, all the best!
Laurie Baglio Hi Julie! I had my aortic valve replaced with a mechanical valve on January 30 and have been on warfa ... Read more
Laurie Baglio Hi Julie! I had my aortic valve replaced with a mechanical valve on January 30 and have been on warfarin since. My first inr test after I was released from hospital was low at 1.8, the second was 3.2, then 3.8 and finally yesterday's test was great at 2.4.
I have greens twice per week. I had broccoli tonight and will have another green on Sunday. Hopefully that will balance out again. It's takes a while they say... trial and error. Good luck finding the right combination of greens and warfarin dosages.
Julie Guillaumin Thanks.
Melissa, they say I have to wait 3 months before I can get the machine at home, but I will lo ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin Thanks.
Melissa, they say I have to wait 3 months before I can get the machine at home, but I will look into it. I'd much prefer to self-manage. I got a mechanical too. So yes, for life.
Thanks Laurie. I'm glad you are therapeutic now. I am not (was not) a medicine taker, and on no meds before surgery, so this is all new to me.
Michael McMullen Hi Julie...managing at times can be somewhat of an art...I have been self testing for years, and rece ... Read more
Michael McMullen Hi Julie...managing at times can be somewhat of an art...I have been self testing for years, and recently my INR jumped to 4.8..one change in meds can have an impact, particularly antibiotics...that's what jumped my INR up, so I purposely missed two doses...and then was back on track...having said that, be careful, as mentioned I have been doing self testing for years and can gauge when it will jump...not an exact science, but the nice thing about self testing you can check it often as you like to get to that sense of INR. Good luck!
Rita Savelis There is often no explanation. It can be very hard to stabilise INR as your body gets used to meds. T ... Read more
Rita Savelis There is often no explanation. It can be very hard to stabilise INR as your body gets used to meds. This takes time. So the doses of meds you take now will not be your final doses.
What you are going through now is common and normal and not because of something you ate or something you did. You need to carry on eating as usual and continue to modify your anticoagulant doses by very small increments.
At some point down the line you will be able to guage what you need in the way of a dose and understand more than the nurses/doctors about what works for your body. But it took me months. Afterwards I did not understand why no one told you that it would take time and that is NORMAL (unfortunate, but still normal).
Rita Savelis One doesn't technically feel "different" with a high or low INR, but emotionally it can be very diffi ... Read more
Rita Savelis One doesn't technically feel "different" with a high or low INR, but emotionally it can be very difficult so your brain will tell you you feel odd when the INR is not right. It is easy to freak out especially as you start this process. I speak from experience...
I go into hospital tomorrow (for another operation, not heart related, on Monday) and have to have my INR lowered before, and then raised afterwards. Thankfully it's been a few years so I don't let my brain freak me out as much as it used to over high and low INRs...
Hi. Just had AVR on Friday, Feb 17, and wondering if anyone could help me with a couple questions. First, my heart is pounding much harder and faster than before. ...Read more
Hi. Just had AVR on Friday, Feb 17, and wondering if anyone could help me with a couple questions. First, my heart is pounding much harder and faster than before. My heat rate before surgery was about 65-70. Now it's about 92, and if I walk around about 110-120. I'm wondering if this big of a difference is normal.
Question 2: Has anyone had trouble with Lopressor/metoprolol? Every time I take it I get dizzy/light headed/pounding heart rate/nausea. They are giving me 25 mg twice a day. I have always had a very low BP, and never could take anything which lowered it. It happens about an hour and a half after I take it and lasts for about 15-30 minutes. I didn't take it today, and no spells.
Thanks also for all the well wishes. I wish I had checked the night before surgery.:)
Marcia Mcgregor Hi, I had my mitral valve replaced two weeks ago. To your second question I would let your doctor kno ... Read more
Marcia Mcgregor Hi, I had my mitral valve replaced two weeks ago. To your second question I would let your doctor know, they are montering me closely right to see if I might not need that medication. So they could deside you do not need it. About your other question, my doctor explained that it takes awhile for your heart to settle down after what it has been through. Also that you will feel it more, moving and pumping, that is normal and will go away with time. Again I would let your doctor know about that especially your numbers jumping around, might have something that can help.
Laurie Baglio Hi Julie! I had my aortic valve replaced on January 30 this year. I find every so often my heart does ... Read more
Laurie Baglio Hi Julie! I had my aortic valve replaced on January 30 this year. I find every so often my heart does the same thing. It beats so hard my whole body rocks.
I am on the same dosage of Metoprolol. I found I was dizzy when I first started taking it but after a short time it passed. I would call your cardiologist and see what he/she says.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Pat Bluemel Hey Julie, You are on this side! Yes, your heart is pissed off right now and it's going to let you ... Read more
Pat Bluemel Hey Julie, You are on this side! Yes, your heart is pissed off right now and it's going to let you know about it for some time:-). The hard beats (even ones you can feel in your throat) will stick around for a couple months and then they go away. I was on Metoprolol (was on 100 mgs a day thanks to Afib) and it never caused trouble. Talk to your MD before you stop taking it - It's main purpose is to keep your heart rate in check and low. My heart rate on 100 mgs was about 92 for about a month. I am now on 25 mgs daily for maintenance.
Barbara Adams I had AVR in January 2016. My experiences were similar. The pounding will decrease but I have occasio ... Read more
Barbara Adams I had AVR in January 2016. My experiences were similar. The pounding will decrease but I have occasional pounding even now ( a few times a week) My heart rate stayed around 90 for a few months, but is now back in the mid to upper 70's. I took metoprolol for four months. My blood pressure stayed low and I felt bad with no energy. After the first 2 months the doctor decreased to 25 MGS and then stopped totally after 4 months. I began to feel better. I think your ups and downs are pretty normal. It took almost a year for me to feel completely normal again! It will all get better! God bless your journey..He is with you!
Steven A Husted i would check with your doctor sometimes these things can be corrected very easy
Julie Guillaumin Thanks all!!! Yes, I had very low energy and weakness like you, Barbara!My heart is pounding, and oft ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin Thanks all!!! Yes, I had very low energy and weakness like you, Barbara!My heart is pounding, and often at 130bpm. I skipped my dose today, and felt much better. Always medication sensitive. The hospital finally called me back today, so I was using y'all as a back up plan in the meantime.:) They want me to divide the dosage in half, so I'll try that. So many weird things happening with my body. My cycle (which is always a problem) came 2 weeks early so I'm finding out early on how the warfarin is affecting that too. But at least no migraines yet!!!
Carmen P Hi Julie....I had AVR on October 11, 2016. I had a resting heart rate in the 90's a week and a half ... Read more
Carmen P Hi Julie....I had AVR on October 11, 2016. I had a resting heart rate in the 90's a week and a half after surgery and then 5 weeks later lower heart rate and a higher BP. My BP will spike at odd times, but goes down pretty quickly. It seems that things are leveling out at four months. You have been through a traumatic surgery and your heart needs time to heal. As to being light headed, I was on occasion and your medication may need to be reduced. I was on 25mg Atenolol once a day before and after surgery for my heart rate. Tell your nurse/doctor if you are concerned. Give it some time, things will get better. I could hear my heart beating at night when it was quiet. I have a bovine valve. Learn from me, use your spirometer daily for the next couple of months to avoid a pleural effusion. Not fun and usually requires a trip to the emergency room to rule out a pulmonary embolism. Good luck, take care.
Rita Savelis Alas, a side effect of OHS is a very rapidly beating heart. The reason one is given betablockers is t ... Read more
Rita Savelis Alas, a side effect of OHS is a very rapidly beating heart. The reason one is given betablockers is to give that heart a rest in the hopes that it will slow down. I also have a normal very low blood pressure so I certainly didn't want anything to lower it even more.....Betablockers (like metrapolol) will stop adrenaline which then will slow your heart (and can slow the rest of you). It sounds like you are on a very small dose. There are however other things one can be given, if one doesn't do well on betablockers. You have to be vocal. But, doctors do tend to want you to be on these for a bit after surgery. They are not forever and made sure to request getting off as soon as you can.
Since you are on anticoagulants you are protected from stroke, so a faster heart is okay. But we do want to give that heart a rest after what it's been through.
It is still so very very early for you Julie and of course all of your body is reacting to what it's been through. It's not the meds, it's the surgery. Your hormones are all off so your period comes at the wrong time and everything else. It will settle, but it takes time and you can expect to be tired (exhausted) for weeks/months....
Take care.
Catie B It took awhile and a bit of trial & error to work out the right dose of Metoprolol in my case. And i ... Read more
Catie B It took awhile and a bit of trial & error to work out the right dose of Metoprolol in my case. And if you continue to have problems with it, there are other beta blockers they could try you on. I still find my stronger-beating heart distracting at night.
Julie Guillaumin Thanks so much everyone. What about Lasix? How long did you have to take that after surgery. I have a ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin Thanks so much everyone. What about Lasix? How long did you have to take that after surgery. I have an appointment back in New Orleans on March 16. Hoping I can get off before that date.
Julie Guillaumin Thanks Pat. I'm not retaining fluid, so I'm taking myself off! No one will call me back for days now ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin Thanks Pat. I'm not retaining fluid, so I'm taking myself off! No one will call me back for days now b/c it's Mardi Gras! self-managed:)
Wanted to share my experience b/c reading yours has been such a great help. I deleted this, but have been asked to re-post. Please keep in mind that I wrote ...Read more
Wanted to share my experience b/c reading yours has been such a great help. I deleted this, but have been asked to re-post. Please keep in mind that I wrote this on my way home, in the car, on very little sleep, in pain, and emotional. I will be sure, if there's a next time, to research my hospital. I'm hoping there's no next time.
Surgery Friday morning, Feb 17, lasted around 4 hours. I didn't sleep at all the night before because of extreme anxiety. I was in a hotel room, finishing my Last Will and Testament, worried sick about leaving my son alone in the world, and still agonizing more over valve choice. I had seen my surgeon that day after a dizzying array of several hours of testing on 9 floors of Ochsner's hospital, and announced the switch to mechanical, but didn't feel ok with it. I didn't discuss the tissue option with him again, because I thought it was stressing out my parents, and I felt I needed more time. So I was feeling neither great nor confident going in. One of the last things I remember is my mom crying as they wheeled me away, saying "Be brave!" and holding back my own tears.
My aortic valve was successfully replaced, and the aneurysm didn't need to be repaired. They removed the breathing tube before I woke, so that was lucky. Got transferred to ICU, and upon awakening, was given 2 oxycodone tablets, even though I warned against it. "Medication sensitive, it's too much," I tell them. Being intolerant to many meds was one of the biggest factors in agonizing forever over a tissue or mechanical valve. I hate taking medication, could never take an antidepressant ,and have always felt that the more natural state your body can be in, the better it will work. It seems clear now, and like it should have been so much easier, but I remained in a state of constant confusion and deliberation for months. (I came here for a tissue valve, and ended up with a mechanical.)
Started throwing up, but no food, so dry heaving episodes for 6 hours with my breastbone freshly sawed open. There was no heart pillow to hold , as they conveniently give you that "later on." Not sure it would've really helped. I thought it was some of the worst pain I'd ever felt, but not for long. Shortly afterwards, they notice my blood pressure was low, as it normally is. So they start an epinephrine drip. I guess they didn't think of my weight, ? OR being sensitive? but that shot my heart rate to well over 230, and sent me into respiratory distress. My heart was pounding in the pit of my stomach, hands, feet, brain.... severe chest pain. Risk of heart attack. Felt like I was dying. They start another IV to crash that one. Fortunately my mom had stepped out, but my dad was there and looked like he would faint any second. Bc of the huge epinephrine dosage, (?) I become temporarily diabetic. I find out sugar free Jello is gross. And pretty much anything sugar free is. I won't mention the chest tube incident, because it's not even believable . Or maybe I'll save that for later. That was part of day one....Or surgery day, which doc says is considered 0. Sleep a total 30-40 min in ICU.
Day 2, or officially 1 after surgery, my vision blurs and was transferred out of ICU to a room so small that there was literally no room to move around. My parents had to maneuver around nurses, and vice versa. There were really old and noisy machines beeping, whirling, flashing and ticking all around my bed. The tv is broken. I don't care about that. But that means my parents can't watch The Bachelor, and all they can do is worry. There's no hot water. NONE. The hospital bed is broken. The chest tube drainage box gets knocked over numerous times.
I then get poked and prodded connected to about 7-8 more IV's. I lose count. Already on blood thinner, so they start a Heparin drip. The nurses are drug pushers, and you can't "just say no." I'm being given drug cocktails of 8-9 pills at time. I ask what each one is, and start to hide the ones I think are bullshit, and try to sort out which ones are making me dizzy, nauseated, blind, etc. Long story shorter, the artery IV in my neck bleeds out.
More complications follow, but nothing that serious, and I am determined to GTFO as soon as humanly possible. To get out, one must walk a certain distance, but I've been refusing pain meds as much as possible to avoid ever throwing up again. (And because I am apparently hardheaded.) I now have a morphine drip that I can administer intravenously every 6-10 minutes. I use it once every 5 to 7 hours. It hurts. But I figure it's supposed to. They keep shouting "Push the button!" I realize later that I should've never stopped pushing the button.
I'm told that the fastest anyone goes home from the surgery is in four days. But also told I am not sleeping enough or getting enough caloric intake for my body to heal. Well shit. I might be here another week?
On Sunday I start pressing the button, but cautiously, and find a smoothie from the gift shop. The hospital doesn't bring any meals, nor provide you with a diet to follow. (I wish I would've started with broth.) There is a flyer with a limited menu, and number to call and order. The food takes over an hour to show up each time, and always shows up cold. The busier they are, the longer it takes. I can't eat it anyway. Finally sleep two hours.
Monday, day 3 they removed the chest drainage tubes by simply saying "take a deep breath" and yanking. The typical way. It hurts, but not too bad, and it's quick. I realize they were causing massive amounts pain bc they were sticking into my back. A few minutes later I'm surprised and delighted to be able to inhale and to walk upright for the first time.
Later that day, I break down crying when they can't find a vein after numerous needle sticks by 2 different nurses because 3 iv's have infiltrated. I am told I have rolling veins, which I do not. Or didn't. My veins were always a phlebotomist's dream. My blood used to be so beautifully dark and thick and the color of a full bodied wine, and now looks light red and bubbly, like fruit punch. Apparently the Coumadin can change things that quickly in your body?? It seems impossible.
I fall into a deep "What have I done, I made the wrong choice" depression about having chosen the wrong valve, and having dietary restrictions and having to get constant blood work, and being chained to this medication, and now possibly others all my life. I'm ticking. It's LOUD! The faster my heart rate, the louder the ticking... I put ear plugs in and I can hear it even louder in my ears. I continue to freak out.
A friend who's in town calls and comes to visit. I'm beyond exhausted and it's hard to speak, but I tell her hospital war stories and make her laugh. I laugh with her. Ouch . Then try not to. Seeing her helps. Sleep about 45 minutes.
Today (Tuesday) I realize that it's my mom's birthday tomorrow and that I'm lucky just to be alive. I decide that I'm going to go home for her present. I do everything and I need to do. I put on lipstick. I sweet talk nurses. I look alive (halfway) ....or 40%.....Ok, 35. I walk the designated block. I blow in the tube.
My folks are super reluctant to leave after all that's happened. I tell them I feel SO much better. I might've lied a little. Ok, a lot.
I try to put things in perspective. My surgeon was awesome, and he saved my life. I had a few nurses who were caring and kind and excellent. I had a friend from home who drove 4 hours to bring my son to see me for a few minutes. I realize that he will need me forever, and I want to be here for him as long as possible. I think of many of you who have had things so much harder, but still smile and encourage others. So thank you for your your prayers and good vibes and support. Thanks for giving me a wealth of information i couldn't find anywhere else. I love and appreciate you, and feel a kinship. Its been a long, emotional road, and i know have a long road ahead. There were times in the past few years, and the past few days that I thought I wouldn't make it. But nothing makes you appreciate life, more than facing death. I'll probably be signing off for a bit, (still having vision and dizzy spells) but know that your messages and words of support have helped so much. In the meantime, I'll try to keep in mind, and hope you will too, that
because you are alive, anything is possible.
Kathy Chris Although painful, i enjoyed reading your update! You have a nice sense of humor!!!! I wish you a su ... Read more
Kathy Chris Although painful, i enjoyed reading your update! You have a nice sense of humor!!!! I wish you a super speedy revovery!!! All the Best with your new valve! Love it and work with it!!!!!! Keep on ticking loud and clear!!!!
Stephen Phayre Julie - I'm so sorry that your experience was so full of unwanted drama. I hope that being home and b ... Read more
Stephen Phayre Julie - I'm so sorry that your experience was so full of unwanted drama. I hope that being home and being back in your familiar surroundings helps you feel so much better. It's such a huge thing to go through. I'll keep you in my thoughts over the coming weeks as you heal.
Steve Farthing Whew! Have been watching for an update from you. Glad to hear you are home and your Stephen King ho ... Read more
Steve Farthing Whew! Have been watching for an update from you. Glad to hear you are home and your Stephen King hospital ordeal is over.
KEVIN RYAN Julie, you have a gift...telling your story with the pen! I echo Kathy's previous comment. What a r ... Read more
KEVIN RYAN Julie, you have a gift...telling your story with the pen! I echo Kathy's previous comment. What a ride. You made it! Enjoy your son, parents, and friends. Has been an honor to "know" you on this site. Thanks for sharing your joys and fears with us. I think I experienced all the emotions reading your story. Keep the faith. All the best! Kevin.
Michael McMullen Wow, just wow...strong and capable of more than you may have realized going in. ...so this is falls ... Read more
Michael McMullen Wow, just wow...strong and capable of more than you may have realized going in. ...so this is falls in the "you cant make this stuff up" category, unfortunately...hang in there Julie.
Barbara Wood Whoa...that was a wild ride! ( nicely written)
Glad you're home & all good wishes going forward.
Pat Bluemel That's quite a tale, one that will fade into your memory in a few months. There's going to be some t ... Read more
Pat Bluemel That's quite a tale, one that will fade into your memory in a few months. There's going to be some tough days and good days. The good days eventually start outweighing the tough days. Keep up good spirits and walk walk walk.
Marie Myers Just wondering why they did not replace the aneurysm area? Hope things have settled down by now...
Rita Savelis Julie, I hear you, and I appreciate your description of how it was. I thought ICU was a nightmare and ... Read more
Rita Savelis Julie, I hear you, and I appreciate your description of how it was. I thought ICU was a nightmare and I hate meds and had a shock with accepting mechanical valves. It's all awful and needs to be named.
I have slowly accepted having to take meds and they are working for me and not affecting me adversely. I take the least amount (coumadin for the valves, and levothyrox for my missing thyroid), and I always question what is being given to me and why and do I have to take it. I know that this feeling about meds comes from me and I have to work on accepting that sometimes I need to take meds even as I wish to be med-free. Accepting my body failing and where it is now is what I have to do. Choices were not easy, and acceptance has been slow but I do live with the meds I have to take.
Dietary restrictions do not have to happen (I eat everything in moderation), your INR will settle and you will need less lab tests, and you will grow more comfortable with the whole routine. It will become like brushing your teeth. (I'm 2 years out so I know it takes time.)
The ticking can drive me crazy but again, I am accepting what I can’t chane. My heart beats very fast over the slightest things. It's what I am now.
I also still have a whole bunch of pills that the hospital kept throwing at me (tramadol and ambien) that I did not use, but figured I could maybe sell them ? Just kidding, but I hear you on the meds, I do.
Keep writing. It puts reality on paper, it takes the hard stuff out of your head and it can be very healing to write the truth. Not to mention that you write well and it's what we need to read.
Take care.
Julie Guillaumin Rita, Thank you. It seems we have much in common. I would also ask the nurses every time what they we ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin Rita, Thank you. It seems we have much in common. I would also ask the nurses every time what they were giving me and why. I've been in quite a bit of pain b/c I was refusing pain meds thinking they were making me sick. So I only came home with Tramadol. I am able to take it in the day, once, but at night gives me nervous energy, and keeps me up, so I'm mostly on Tylenol. I was never a Tylenol taker, only Advil. But that's over. Called the hospital, but It's Mardi Gras holiday here in LA, so not even the home health nurses are around. It's funny that they came every 2 days and checked my INR, but now I can go 6 b/c it's Carnival time!
I think I'm so tough, and taking the pain, but I broke down sobbing yesterday b/c I found out I couldn't have green tea, which I've had every morning for the past 15 years. I stare at my little garden and think I can't eat anything in it.
I have 9 prescriptions! I made the same joke yesterday. :)
Rita Savelis Hey - you can have green tea. What's that all about? You can eat what's in your garden. Seriously it ... Read more
Rita Savelis Hey - you can have green tea. What's that all about? You can eat what's in your garden. Seriously it is okay to eat everything and adjust the meds to what you eat normally. The thing that is not good is to all of a sudden eat a whole bunch of brocoli when that is not what you normally eat. Then, it will cause a change in your results. But most people have eating patterns and should stick with them. At the moment they are trying to stabilise your INR (which can be very erratic for weeks/months). It will settle down when your body accomodates to the meds. But that doesn't happen overnight.
I hate it when the medical profession is not honest or helpful.
Those 9 prescriptions are not forever. They are for now. You'll get through it.
And I love the Mardi Gras story. That is so typical - that one needs care, up until a holiday shows up. Geez...
KEVIN RYAN Julie: you will be able to have those food favorites once your INR number stabilize. However, for t ... Read more
KEVIN RYAN Julie: you will be able to have those food favorites once your INR number stabilize. However, for those items you love which have/promote vitamin K will need to be taken in regular amounts consistently. When your intake of those items is irregular...your INRs might be as well. You'll stabilize once you get your intake routine down...and you'll go on with life enjoying your greens and garden.
Julie Guillaumin What a relief! My nurse from home health told me that green tea has extremely high amounts of K, and ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin What a relief! My nurse from home health told me that green tea has extremely high amounts of K, and to avoid it. Upon research, and after seeing your comments, I see that the green tea leaf BREWED isn't actually high. Phew. That's like telling a coffee drinker they can never have coffee again. I must sound like a total loon by now, so I appreciate y'all putting up with me. :)
I'm gonna go make my first post surgery cup of Jasmine Green now. Things just got a little better.:)
Hi. Just wanted to thank everyone for being so supportive and helpful. I am still agonizing over the decision of mechanical or tissue. This is undoubtedly the ...Read more
Hi. Just wanted to thank everyone for being so supportive and helpful. I am still agonizing over the decision of mechanical or tissue. This is undoubtedly the hardest decision I've ever had to make. I just found out that my surgeon will not use the On-x valve. He doesn't like it , so that was really disappointing to me, being that medication is a huge worry of mine. if mechanical, he will only use St Jude's. I am wondering if anyone out there has a tissue valve that has lasted longer than 10 years. I have about 9 days to decide.
Hello Julie, that's strange that he says he will only use St. Jude's Valves. Did he say "why" he does ... Read more
Hello Julie, that's strange that he says he will only use St. Jude's Valves. Did he say "why" he doesn't like On-X Valves. Just curious. St. Jude does make great valves and they have been around a long long time. So I certainly am not knocking his choice. Just curious as to what his thought process may be. Especially since the On- X is the Valve of choice for me. I see my Surgeon tomorrow and will ask his opinion on St. Jude VS ON-X .
I am 48 and this is my reason for going with the On-X valve. But everyone is different, I feel I woul ... Read more
I am 48 and this is my reason for going with the On-X valve. But everyone is different, I feel I would much rather be on "anti coags" than have a 7 to 10 yr re-operation window. I know a lot of people think just the opposite of the way I do. For me it's all give and take. I wish I had an answer for you but the best I can do is give you a window into my thought process. For me the Coumadin is a worth while trade off for possibly going the distance without re-operation.
Julie Guillaumin I asked him in an email and here was his response:
"The On-X valve has a smaller opening at a given ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin I asked him in an email and here was his response:
"The On-X valve has a smaller opening at a given diameter than the other valves out there, and in the US patients are still on coumadin with it. If a person has to be on coumadin due to a mechanical valve, better to get another type that functions better. Or, to get a tissue valve that doesn't require coumadin."
I've read about so many people getting the On-x, and have read all of the research on the valve. I think it's great that there is less meds required... but he doesn't seem to be a fan.
Thanks Keith, I very much appreciate it.
You are welcome, and I wish you much luck in your quest for the correct valve. I am so sorry your hav ... Read more
You are welcome, and I wish you much luck in your quest for the correct valve. I am so sorry your having such a difficult time getting this stuff nailed down. Good Luck Julie my thoughts are with you friend
Steve Farthing FYI - On-x claims that their valves have optimal flow so do not need to be larger. They claim increa ... Read more
Steve Farthing FYI - On-x claims that their valves have optimal flow so do not need to be larger. They claim increasing the orifice area beyond optimal flow "does not make sense when increased turbulence, blood destruction and noise are a concern".
http://www.onxlti.com/clinical-update-forty-two-mitral-valve/
Optimal flow in a mitral valve. Less mismatch with the On-X mitral valve proves that optimal flow is achieved at a smaller nominal size.
Rita Savelis I hear you Julie. This decision is impossible to make, because you never know what the outcome of the ... Read more
Rita Savelis I hear you Julie. This decision is impossible to make, because you never know what the outcome of the making the opposite choise would ultimately be.
Surgeons are allowed to have their opinions and ways of working. Nothing is 100% true. Your age and which valve is being replaced and why and your valve size and your other health problems are all factors.
After that, it's a choice.
Valves are also a "product" marketed by valve makers and doctors alike.
As others have said, ultimately the choice will be between having more surgeries or taking meds. Having said that, some patients with tissue valves also find themselves having to take meds, and a mechanical valve recipient might require more surgery.
Many hope that TAVR procedures will work for them in the future, but that's uncertain as well.
I'm sorry you have to have OHS and sorry you have to make these decisions.
I had OHS at age 54, and had 2 valves replaced (aortic and mitral) and another valve (tricuspid) repaired. I also had lots of scarring in my lungs and elsewhere from previous cancer treatment, so It was decided (by surgeons) to go for less surgery in the future (especially because each tissue valve would give out at different times). It was somewhat of a letdown to get mechanical valves, but I have no complaints several years later.
Ultimately, the hard part is living with a heart condition and the after effects and unknown future, not what type of valve you choose.
But I hear you. We've all been there. It's unfair. It's hard. Whatever choice you make is the right one for you, at this moment in time.
Darlene Smith If you feel On-X is for you, maybe you need to get a second surgical opinion from a different surgeo ... Read more
Darlene Smith If you feel On-X is for you, maybe you need to get a second surgical opinion from a different surgeon/hospital. This is a critical decision in your life and if you are at all uncomfortable, consider alternatives. There are other surgeons who will use the valve you prefer, and who are experts at putting it in.
Meredith Bray I was 43 when I got my On-X, three years ago. I'm on a lower dose of anti-coags than I was two years ... Read more
Meredith Bray I was 43 when I got my On-X, three years ago. I'm on a lower dose of anti-coags than I was two years ago. I hear my ticking, too. It's bearable. I'm at my desk right now with the computer running and a portable heater, and I can hear it if I sit still and listen for it. The sound has faded into the background for me - there's not many times when I am still enough to hear it loud enough to bother me.
This is an extremely personal decision to make, and only you can make it. Whichever you choose will be the right choice for you. I've only seen one person on these journals write "I really wish I had chosen the other valve." It's agonizing, isn't it? Ticking & meds vs multiple surgeries? Each person has their own opinions and priorities.
Best of luck to you, and remember we're always here if you have any other questions!
-Meredith
Well Said Meredith I completely agree with you on this. It is such a personal choice and there is giv ... Read more
Well Said Meredith I completely agree with you on this. It is such a personal choice and there is give and take....pros and cons.
Hi everyone,
I am brand new to this forum, and trying to get as much info as possible. I have severe AS, and need AVR very soon. I have done much debating ...Read more
Hi everyone,
I am brand new to this forum, and trying to get as much info as possible. I have severe AS, and need AVR very soon. I have done much debating b/t mechanical and tissue valves. I am 43, and was talked into mechanical, as to avoid multiple surgeries. I don't like the thought of coumadin, or the possible effects. Or ticking sounds. But don't like the idea of multiple surgeries either. Recently, when I had a visit with a surgeon, he told me he thought the new brand of tissue valve would last me 15 years. I know there's no way to know for sure, but that would put me doing a TAVR at age 58, and counting on technology to improve in those years. So I'm debating my decision again now.
Wondering if anyone has any advice on tissue vs mechanical, or any experiences that may help. Thanks so much.
Paul Wells I got a tissue valve. I had my second open heart 11 year later . Will need a third soon. Been told No ... Read more
Paul Wells I got a tissue valve. I had my second open heart 11 year later . Will need a third soon. Been told Not eligible for TAVR. It's not just the surgeries but the years of declining health before each surgery and the long rehab each time. Not just physical trama but emotional as well. If I could do over I'd go mechanical.
Shawn Taylor New to this forum as well, although I had my AVR in December, so am not far removed from your situati ... Read more
Shawn Taylor New to this forum as well, although I had my AVR in December, so am not far removed from your situation. Not sure I was "talked into" a mechanical as there was no pressure, but as my surgeon said, the only thing he could be sure of was that if I went with a tissue valve at my age (49) I'd be having additional surgeries in the future (TAVR isn't any sort of guarantee). And supposedly the younger you are, the less life you may get out of the tissue valve. I definitely struggled with the decision though for all the same reasons as you (and everyone else "younger"), but decided to go mechanical (On-X). I'm almost 5 weeks post-op and to address your concerns, Coumadin has been a non-issue for me (just a daily pill and inr has been managed fairly easily...the clinic is right down the road) and the ticking is there, but not at all noticeable the majority of the time. If anything, it seems less like ticking and more like audible heartbeats, which I've heard can be more pronounced during recovery, so I'm hoping it lessens. If not, it's mainly when going to sleep and is easily tolerable. And with the experience of surgery and recovery fresh in my mind, I'm hopeful to not have to repeat it and like to think this will be a permanent fix. There are of course many other opinions and this is just my experience so far, but it feels like the right choice (not that I can change my mind now:))...good luck with the decision.
Bill Schofield Hello Julie. I only have a few minutes as my surgery is less than 12 hours away, but I did make the ... Read more
Bill Schofield Hello Julie. I only have a few minutes as my surgery is less than 12 hours away, but I did make the choice to go with a tissue valve. I am 45 and not ready for Coumadin with my life and active lifestyle, plus having a 5 1/2 year old daughter. For me the choice was straightforward based on the engineering and material science improvements being made on a near yearly basis. The technology curve is taking off in the positive direction, while the risk factors for reoperation are plummeting. In 12-15 years from now the technology will be far superior to today and the risk factors for our age group will be very low for reoperation. Those combined with the ability to eliminate Coumadin at this time made my decision easy. I have a lot more information on what I researched, etc, but unfortunately need to catch a few hours of sleep tonight. I will follow up in the near future but would not be afraid of a tissue valve at all. Ps: I went with the St. Jude Trifecta. Excellent properties across the board vs. other tissue valves. We can talk more soon. Good luck! Bill
Julie Guillaumin Thank you all for the responses. Shawn, On-x is definitely being considered, and I really appreciate ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin Thank you all for the responses. Shawn, On-x is definitely being considered, and I really appreciate you sharing with me your experience thus far.
Bill, I hope your surgery goes flawlessly, and that your recovery is quick and easy. You will be in my thoughts and prayers. The St. Jude Trifecta is what I had decided on when my surgery was scheduled back in November, but lots has happened since. I look forward to seeing you back here, and discussing more later. For now, be well and Godspeed!
Robert Osmachenko Hi Julie. Good meeting you and welcome to the site. I am 2 1/2 years out from an aortic tissue valv ... Read more
Robert Osmachenko Hi Julie. Good meeting you and welcome to the site. I am 2 1/2 years out from an aortic tissue valve. When I was recovering in hospital the head nurse approached me and asked me to talk to two younger patients 34 and 38 respectively and offer my opinion on valve choice, which I did. They were having some apprehension on which valve to choose and at the time the surgeon pool were leaning a bit more towards the tissue valve due to the complications of daily coumadin use.
I feel this is a personal choice based on your lifestyle. It is not a "cut and dry" decision pardon the punny words. If you're active then its one thing and then there's the reality of a re-surgery. (See Paul Wells comments). Paul has very good comments about valve life and recovery which do not come with guarantees. Mechanical valves have life spans, ticking sounds and coumadin. How will coumadin work with your body, who knows?
Do you have good support after surgery ie: close to medical help?
Yes, technology is moving quickly but will you be eligible when the time comes for re-surgery with TAVR?
For me it was like taking a leap of faith and building my wings on the way down. Take care , you will make the right decision.
Clare Auten Good luck. It is a tough decision. At 45, I made the decision for an On-x. I have 3 kids 16, 10 and 7 ... Read more
Clare Auten Good luck. It is a tough decision. At 45, I made the decision for an On-x. I have 3 kids 16, 10 and 7. I am active but not into extreme sports. I jog, hike with the kids, mow the lawn, work as a teacher, all the stuff I did before. Coumadin hasn't been a problem and with 2 bouts of post op a-fib would probably be on it anyway. The ticking has become less noticeable over time. Knowing that I don't have to do this again is reassuring. At more than 3 years post op, I am happy with the choice.
Julie Guillaumin I seem to change my mind every other day. My intolerance to many medications makes me nervous. But on ... Read more
Julie Guillaumin I seem to change my mind every other day. My intolerance to many medications makes me nervous. But on the other hand, I don't have any way to know how many surgeries I'm in for with a tissue valve. Has anyone ever heard of taking Coumadin on a trail basis? I may ask my doctor to see if this is possible.
Heath Larner Hi Julie. I am 47 and had surgery 10 weeks ago. I, too, struggled with the decision. I went with mech ... Read more
Heath Larner Hi Julie. I am 47 and had surgery 10 weeks ago. I, too, struggled with the decision. I went with mechanical as I didn't want multiple surgeries. I have spoken to many folks who are on coumadin and they convinced me that it wasn't a big deal. They were correct...taking coumadin has been no problem and no side effects. I still shave my neck with a regular razor! My surgeon used the On-x...you might find another surgeon if that's the valve you want. I am in Arkansas and had surgery in Houston at Memorial Hermann; my surgeon was Dr. Anthony Estrera and he was wonderful. It would be worth the call since he isn't far from you. Best wishes and keep us posted.
Tom Dadisman Hi Julie, our diagnosis looks the same, I had my surgery on October 4th and opted for a porcine val ... Read more
Tom Dadisman Hi Julie, our diagnosis looks the same, I had my surgery on October 4th and opted for a porcine valve. In my case I did not want the anti-coagulant therapy and I'm also counting on the TVAR technology becoming more mature so that my surgery in the future will be easier. If you look at the statics the mortality rate on the mechanical valve is greater due to complications with bleeding, injuries, anti-coagulation etc. A tissue valve will fail much like your original valve, mechanical valves are reliable when they do fail its sudden and an emergency. If you need more ideas I can send you actual research papers.