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Meeting the Surgeon
Initially, I thought this
valve could be repaired using GoreTex(TM) chordae tendineae
("heartstrings") replacements in open ...Read more
Meeting the Surgeon
Initially, I thought this
valve could be repaired using GoreTex(TM) chordae tendineae
("heartstrings") replacements in open heart surgery. (Ah naivety) I
read all the available literature about this repair process, prepped questions
about details, and studied the study proposed for comparing this repair with
the temporary catheter-placed clip (MitraClip) that was the alternative to the
definitive repair. I thought I had a possible game plan, and I was willing to
forgo the less invasive but non-definitive MitraClip for the longer recovery
open heart direct repair of the chordae. I did not know the valve had so
much calcium. This was discovered just 2 days before today's kickoff meeting
and appeared in the heart CT angiogram. The cardiothoracic surgeon who would
have done the repair ruled the calcium too much and in an unanticipated move, removed
himself from the case! Unexpected? Yes! But that is the way biology and
medicine operate. Just when you think you understand the situation there
appears another factor.
The Calcium
What is this calcium
which caused the surgeon to withdraw from the case? Not everyone knows, that
the heart has a "skeleton". These are rings of fibrous tissue similar
to cartilage that surround each of the valves giving them structure for the
valve leaflets to attach to. That sounds like a good thing. But thinking back
on embryonic development, our real skeleton starts out as cartilage, and over
time calcium sets down within this fibrous matrix to create bones. You may be
beginning to see a potential problem. How does biology know that calcium
belongs to skeletal bone cartilage and not to heart cartilage? Well, it
doesn't.
I was awarded the
"impressive" accolade by the surgeon. "I mean you have got some
impressive ... look at that! ... that's 1 1/2 centimeters!" pointing to a
bright white blob on the CT scan display. "That's my valve??" I said.
"Oh yeah!". You may recall my regurgitation was "large". I
have lost my taste for superlatives.
The surgeon, a very
personable, polite, considerate, and well-spoken young man explained that the
mortality figures in the first month for direct repair that he does is 1-2% but
reported repairs for a calcified valve, like mine, at more like 20% and he does
not do them.
What comes next?
Rose Madura Bruce, I'm glad you are seeking a second opinion. So , I may have missed something but can the valve ... Read more
Rose Madura Bruce, I'm glad you are seeking a second opinion. So , I may have missed something but can the valve be replaced?
Rita Savelis Thank you for this detailed and helpful explanation. Everyone's heart and valve problems are singular ... Read more
Rita Savelis Thank you for this detailed and helpful explanation. Everyone's heart and valve problems are singular. I also had 2 very stenosed calcified valves. My surgeon had to be prepared for what he might find inside me which would be specific to my valves. Alas repairs are possible for some but not all. Many surgeons will attempt a repair if it looks possible but go with replacement if a repair isn't possible. There is no surgeon who can guarantee a repair. Wishing you the best as you move forward.
Bruce Slater Hi Rose - thanks for your note. The extensive calcifications make replacement problematic. I'm going ... Read more
Bruce Slater Hi Rose - thanks for your note. The extensive calcifications make replacement problematic. I'm going to get a second opinion as recommended by my original surgeon.
The TransEsophageal
Echocardiogram (TEE)
I don’t have to explain
to this group that a TEE is not the first part of a tee-hee giggle. ...Read more
The TransEsophageal
Echocardiogram (TEE)
I don’t have to explain
to this group that a TEE is not the first part of a tee-hee giggle.
It was a significant
procedure and produced detailed results and the team put me under and brought
me back without any problem. The anesthesiologist in charge of the
procedure introduced herself saying "I am your bartender today
...". I woke up slurring my speech for a few minutes, and with a slightly
sore throat, but otherwise no worse for the wear.
What does Mitral Valve
Leakage look like?
This is a link to a very
good cartoon representation of the heart valves specifically the
mitral valve when it fails. Mitral Valve Regurgitation - YouTube
The TEE results confirmed
that I have severe mitral regurgitation and they were able to estimate the
effective area of regurgitation is about 1 square centimeter and the volume of
regurgitation at 98 ml. Both of those are considered large The flail leaflets
and ruptured chordae tendineae (heart strings) were also seen. 2/3rds of
my posterior leaflet is "incompetent" and not doing its job closing
the valve. Later the same week, I had a cardiac CT Angiogram scheduled to
quantify how much calcification I had on my mitral valve. This is important in
planning any correction of the leak.
Will the defect be too
large to repair by catheter? Will it be too large to repair with a Gore-Tex(tm)
chordae replacement? Will I have to get a pig valve? Or a mechanical
valve? Will the amount of calcium deposits play a big role in the path
that I take?
Mitral valve regurgitation â also called mitral regurgitation, mitral insufficiency or mitral incompetence â is a condition in which your heart's mitral valv...
Grace Mason Glad you are keeping your humor in this stressful time, Bruce. I think that definitely helps to deal ... Read more
Grace Mason Glad you are keeping your humor in this stressful time, Bruce. I think that definitely helps to deal with the unanticipated curve balls we sometimes get thrown to us. Sending well wishes to you to find the surgeon, that you feel comfortable and confident in, to fix that valve for you 🙏❤️
Valerie Allen If there is too much calcium it often means replacement. Many people on here have had replacements. G ... Read more
Valerie Allen If there is too much calcium it often means replacement. Many people on here have had replacements. Getting another opinion Is needed.
First Listen
When something big happens in your life, it can seem like a
bolt out of the blue. On reflection sometimes we discover hints and ...Read more
First Listen
When something big happens in your life, it can seem like a
bolt out of the blue. On reflection sometimes we discover hints and allegations
(to quote Paul Simon) of precedent events. When I found out that I had mitral
valve prolapse and regurgitation, it felt like the floor had fallen out from
under me. I was sitting in the exam room after a very nice conversation with
the new nurse practitioner. She was doing the basic heart and lung exam when
she stopped and said “You didn’t mention you had a murmur! It’s kind of loud!
You want to listen?” We had just finished the part where I told her I was a
retired primary care physician. She took her stethoscope off and handed it to
me. As I fitted the earpieces into my ear canals and checked the chest piece by
tapping it I felt time disappear and I entered provider mode listening to
another patient’s chest. Placing the chest piece over my heart I heard the
familiar sound of a leaking valve. I froze. I was listening to my heart make a
sound I had never heard it make. All healthcare workers who have a stethoscope
listen to their own heart. It had been many years since I had listened to the
relaxed lub and dub of healthy valves closing. I don’t know how long I listened
transfixed by the waterfall roar of blood going the wrong way. I became
conscious of sitting and listening with my provider’s tool while she stared
questioningly. I snapped back into the provider role and said “Yes. That sounds
like a 3 or 4 (out of a scale of 6) – pretty loud!”
We discussed the initial workup with an echocardiogram.
Echocardiography is the process of sending high-frequency sound waves through
the heart and recording the bounced-back waves or echoes. The concept had been
around since the 1950s and was getting wider use and inevitable overuse in the
1970s. I thought about the first echocardiogram I ever had. I think it may have been in residency in the
late 70’s. I was hanging out with other internal medicine residents after a
case presentation, and I was herded into the echocardiogram lab by a cardiology
fellow to be part of his study of this new “click-murmur syndrome” which would
later be called mitral valve prolapse. Later he approached me with a paper
strip of the results and excitedly told me I had it. It’s a common phenomenon
that when something is new and everyone is searching for it, we “find” a little
more and sometimes a lot more of what we are looking for compared to subsequent
somber academic surveys. In later years, I would mention it to my physicians, and
they would admit they could not hear anything abnormal. Eventually, I forgot
about it and stopped mentioning it.
That recent day sitting with my provider, the enthusiasm of
the cardiology fellow from 45 years ago flooded back and I thought “Huh! That
guy must have been right!”
Susan Lynn Welcome, Bruce! It's always great when we have the pleasure of welcoming a medical professional to t... Read more
Susan Lynn Welcome, Bruce! It's always great when we have the pleasure of welcoming a medical professional to this group. No doubt, a physician makes for an interesting patient, but the perspective you bring to these posts has been informative and entertaining! You definitely have a great sense of humor and an engaging style of writing. I'm both emphathizing and enjoying the details of your story. (It's very reassuring that you were also caught off guard with your diagnosis - I remember hearing that news like it was yesterday!)
It sounds like you're doing everything right - researching, researching, researching. Being an informed patient is critical in making the decisions that will give you confidence on 'game day.' You're going to go through many of the same emotions we all did prior to surgery, but you will get through it! Waiting is the worst part!!! Keep us posted!
Bruce Slater Thanks for those kind words and everyone's support!
Yikes I didn't know it would blow up the pic so big - apologies!