Yesterday was my one-year anniversary of a successful mitral valve repair surgery.. I am so grateful for my different tribes of support during the pre and post ...Read more
Yesterday was my one-year anniversary of a successful mitral valve repair surgery.. I am so grateful for my different tribes of support during the pre and post op phases. I’ve had a couple of echoes since the surgery and all still seems good. I met a fellow mitral valve repair “table host” who not only went through the original surgery 3 times the first time (robotic, then 2x OHS to fix what robotic missed) but then the repair was leaking severely subjecting him to another OHS 9 months later! So so important that you pick the right surgeon and support team/facility! Many many thanks to Dr. Gary Ott and Providence St. Vincent hospital in Portland. Keep on ticking!
Mike Roskowinski Great advice Jim. Congrats on your valversary!! I am very lucky to have the Mayo Clinic right here ... Read more
Mike Roskowinski Great advice Jim. Congrats on your valversary!! I am very lucky to have the Mayo Clinic right here for me to go to. Excellent surgeons and hospital staff to help me through! I am so happy I waited to get in with them and get the surgery scheduled at one of the top hospitals in the world.
Getting a bunch of the EOB's from my surgery, x-rays, lab work, hospital stay, etc. My health plan enables an on-line look at the details. Biggest surprises ...Read more
Getting a bunch of the EOB's from my surgery, x-rays, lab work, hospital stay, etc. My health plan enables an on-line look at the details. Biggest surprises were: 1) my pharmacy charges were more than the room/board ($0.53 per aspirin, $11 per pain pill, and lots of IV's that I don't remember); 2) this is the most expensive room I've ever stayed in ($1,862 per day); 3) the annulplasty ring goes for $3,375 (totally worth it!); 4) being able to see a level of detail in the charges that I thought I was going to have to twist arms for.
So grateful for insurance. At some point I'll add it all up. Anyone done that yet? What did you come up with and for what procedure at what facility?
Anna Jones I wonder what the average and median amount of money was that people spent out-of-pocket for their he ... Read more
Anna Jones I wonder what the average and median amount of money was that people spent out-of-pocket for their heart surgery.
I received an invoice for my heart cath that was $26,797. Most injections were $23. One injection was $218. Medical supplies was $44 each. One Medical supply was $3,532! and 6-hours spent in the lab waiting to be released was $19,955! This invoice did not include the chest X-ray, or the Interventionist bill. I, too, thank God for health insurance.
Rose Madura My "retail price" for surgery was $425,000. Thank God for insurance. Of course, the insurance only ... Read more
Rose Madura My "retail price" for surgery was $425,000. Thank God for insurance. Of course, the insurance only had to pay the agreed upon price. I was in and out of the hospital during a 3 month period - 24 days total IN the hospital. After the first surger y, Anthem actually called me to see aboutf my "event". I thought that term was funny.
Kirk Bepler That I believe, my Cath was retail $69K insurance paid $23K. I can just imagine what the retiail is f ... Read more
Kirk Bepler That I believe, my Cath was retail $69K insurance paid $23K. I can just imagine what the retiail is for surgery and stay.
I got my first full cardiac rehab visit in yesterday. At the initial visit when they hooked me up to the monitor it showed I was in A-fib, so I got a pass. ...Read more
I got my first full cardiac rehab visit in yesterday. At the initial visit when they hooked me up to the monitor it showed I was in A-fib, so I got a pass. But my cardiologist re-started my Metoprolol which seems to have helped the frequent spikes I was getting. Anyway back to yesterday -- only treadmill, recumbent elliptical bike and some stretching. But it made a huge difference in my glucose levels. I knew if I could just get more active I'd get back closer to normal. I'm so pleased! Looking forward to stepping it up though, I never got much beyond my resting heart rate.
Anna Jones There is much to be proud of in yourself with your first full cardiac rehab visit. Sending best wish ... Read more
Anna Jones There is much to be proud of in yourself with your first full cardiac rehab visit. Sending best wishes for continued improvement and much health in the future.
Today the roller coaster is at the top of the hill, hoo-ray!
Since leaving the hospital, I've been back once in the ER for A-Fib treatment (a week after ...Read more
Today the roller coaster is at the top of the hill, hoo-ray!
Since leaving the hospital, I've been back once in the ER for A-Fib treatment (a week after my initial release) and nearly again yesterday, when at my first visit to cardio rehab, I went into A-Fib again. This time, I had a scheduled appointment with my cardiologist about an hour later, so decided to keep that (had a bag packed for the hospital just in case). Getting the EKG done in his office and he tells me that although I was in A-Fib for a short period earlier, I now had Atrial Flutter, A-Fib's less well-known but still synchronized cousin. Meaning it's still an irregular heartbeat but not quite as intense as A-Fib.
So result of that is I'm back on Metoprolol (which I was taking pre-surgery, but was taken off of). Back there again in a month to see if the A-Fib and the A-Flutter are contained as my heart heals, otherwise I may see a specialist (electrophysiologist) to map the electrical signals and determine possible ablation or pacemaker.
I guess these are the things that are considered extraneous to the usual description of open heart surgery. I was hoping for a quick return to my regular activities, but it'll apparently be a slower road for me.
I'm still thrilled about having a new, stronger beating heart. It's just that my heart isn't thrilled yet with the new arrangements. I can be patient though. I can still focus on healing the scar, the sternum, improving blood sugar, and being more independent every day.
Nancy Surprenant Takahashi i too am in afib after 3 weeks of OHS and had the maze procedure, it drives me crazy, i can't sleep at night. Hope you get back to sinus!
Don L Hi Jim, sorry to hear about the AFIB challenges, but I think your disposition/determination on these ... Read more
Don L Hi Jim, sorry to hear about the AFIB challenges, but I think your disposition/determination on these events is awesome. Hoping the beta blocker helps you settle in.
Susan Robichau I have had a similar road with just the AFib. (No flutter) Am on metoprolol as well. I have been told ... Read more
Susan Robichau I have had a similar road with just the AFib. (No flutter) Am on metoprolol as well. I have been told that the AFib is most likely temporary so no talk of ablation yet. Haven’t had any AFib since 4-18 but am having a stress echo on Friday which might trigger it.
It's been a bit of a roller-coaster this last two weeks.
The first week post-surgery spent in the hospital with initial low blood pressure, high blood sugar ...Read more
It's been a bit of a roller-coaster this last two weeks.
The first week post-surgery spent in the hospital with initial low blood pressure, high blood sugar and somewhat irregular heartbeat.
The second week was the typical "3 steps forward and 2 back" although some days only 1 back, that is until Friday when "the Perfect Storm" hit.
Drugs prescribed post-surgery were keeping my blood sugar too high, I was dehydrated and the high glucose pushed me into diabetic keytoacidosis. Didn't feel too well but it was time for a shower, so started upstairs, but only got about halfway before I felt dizzy and faint. Sat down for 10 minutes or so, then felt more like lying down than the shower. But I'm not a serial napper, so got up after around an hour and finished the shower. As Danna was helping me, I started getting dizzy again, had a few tics and threw up. Took blood pressure and way below my normal, took blood sugar and way too high. Felt like A-Fib, so Danna took me to the ER and they did what is called a cardioversion (shock heart back into normal rhythm).
They ended up admitting me for the night for observation, but back home again and feeling better. I definitely need better glucose control, seeing my doctor this week about that. By the way, for anyone thinking about cardioversion to come out of AF, I highly recommend it.
For those of you who've been through surgery, you may know what I'm saying when I say it's always a new adventure every day with a new heart.
For those of you who are looking forward to coming out on this side, know that every day you are continuing to heal and sometimes it just takes figuring out what is right for YOU, not what others say or what the averages are. It's great to ask others about their experiences to try and plot your path, just don't forget we all experience this journey a little differently.
Mark Wilbur You've had a rough two weeks, Jim. You're right, everyone's journey is different. For those of us w ... Read more
Mark Wilbur You've had a rough two weeks, Jim. You're right, everyone's journey is different. For those of us who are awaiting for surgery, your stories (and those of others) have been so important to helping us understand the difficulties as well as the good that may come our way. I hope this was the last bump in the road to your full recovery!
Gina Fiorentino Hi Jim, Just want to thank you for your post. I'm sorry it has been a bumpy ride since you returned ... Read more
Gina Fiorentino Hi Jim, Just want to thank you for your post. I'm sorry it has been a bumpy ride since you returned home. I am also very sensitive to medications and have at times had to roll with body sensations (dizzy/lightheadness), high/low blood pressure moments (some of my own doing- i.e. be careful of any foods that may secretly contain msg), and calling on inner resources to stay calm until able to discuss with the doctor. Its a learning curve, and like you said, "we are all different"... but it's so nice to have each other to share and communicate with! Wishing you well... and hoping things level out going forward.
Anna Jones Hi Jim, be very careful with ketoacidosis. I had a friend die from it. Glad you are feeling a littl ... Read more
Anna Jones Hi Jim, be very careful with ketoacidosis. I had a friend die from it. Glad you are feeling a little better. Sending prayers that you will continue to improve daily.
veronica gunthner Wishing you well, John. I have decided against mechanical as well and was assured that TAVR would be ... Read more
veronica gunthner Wishing you well, John. I have decided against mechanical as well and was assured that TAVR would be possible if it failed. I have a heart cath May 1st and surgery the next day. Can't wait to get it over with!
Today's post surgery learning: the weight of a full coffee pot and your need for caffeine is directly proportional to your morning stupor and the resultant ...Read more
Today's post surgery learning: the weight of a full coffee pot and your need for caffeine is directly proportional to your morning stupor and the resultant pain incurred.
Marie Myers Yup. Lots of little gems like that to learn...
Steven Perrotta My first surprise was how the car door. Something you have been doing all your life. They are a lot h ... Read more
Steven Perrotta My first surprise was how the car door. Something you have been doing all your life. They are a lot heavier than you think.
Marc Marelich Oh how I feel your pain right now. Takes your breathe away. Ouch, lots of things to learn in the next ... Read more
Marc Marelich Oh how I feel your pain right now. Takes your breathe away. Ouch, lots of things to learn in the next few months
OK, not so original but it's how I feel today. Surgical PA came in this morning and said they'd looked through the last 3 days of pacemaker data and came to ...Read more
OK, not so original but it's how I feel today. Surgical PA came in this morning and said they'd looked through the last 3 days of pacemaker data and came to agreement with the cardiology team that I could stay another day if I wanted to but I could leave with a heart monitor. So back home with a temporary recliner, swollen ankles and feet (cankles are the official name I'm told) a bunch of prescriptions, clean hair (no hospital selfies here), and a whole lot of gratitude to God and those at Providence St. Vincent's, people who do this every day.
I'll write more over the next few days about the experience...
Charlotte Dowd Congratulation Jim! You are a rock star:-)!
Gina Fiorentino Now time to rest. Glad to hear your home recovering...
Mark Wilbur Home was never sweeter, I'm sure. Happy for you, Jim.
Carolyn Newell I bet you're happy to be home. Any tips for me? I'm next at Providence, St. Vincent. Sounds like you ... Read more
Carolyn Newell I bet you're happy to be home. Any tips for me? I'm next at Providence, St. Vincent. Sounds like you were happy with the care.
Don L Great update Jim, so hard to rest in hospital.
Hi,
I'm still in the hospital, now awaiting opinions of cardiologists and surgeons if I need a pacemaker.
Wednesday I had a few episodes where my heart ...Read more
Hi,
I'm still in the hospital, now awaiting opinions of cardiologists and surgeons if I need a pacemaker.
Wednesday I had a few episodes where my heart didn't fully complete beating. You know, dub but no thub. So I've been hooked up to internal surgical wires since then to monitor. Only happened one overnight on Wednesday so thinking was all ok.
Thursday I decided to take the PT 's advice and picked up the pace on walking around the floor. That was a mistake, threw me into A fib. So now I'm sitting with a long 2 days now) IV drip of amiodarone which brings me back slowly to normal sinus rhythm. Now waiting for the surgery team "he's fine, he just needs time to heal" and the cardiology team "he's gonna need a pacemaker " to get on the same page.
Will be here at least another day. At least the view and the care team are top notch!
All in all this was not what I expected. Doesn't mean it's wrong or not working though. None of us are average, average is just the mix of all our outcomes. I'd encourage all of you with upcoming surgeries to be ready for anything but always pray for the best!
Barbara Wood Good post! The possible need for a pacemaker was one of my little glitches too, also the afib. Turned ... Read more
Barbara Wood Good post! The possible need for a pacemaker was one of my little glitches too, also the afib. Turned out I didn't need the pacemaker & the afib was controlled. It's perfectly normal to have things like this pop up after surgery...best wishes for an excellent recovery Jim!
Michael Eichhorn Thanks for sharing Jim. Hopefully the team there will get you back on your feet and in full recovery ... Read more
Michael Eichhorn Thanks for sharing Jim. Hopefully the team there will get you back on your feet and in full recovery mode.
Anna Jones I had asked my surgeon about A-Fib. He said it happens about 50% of the time after OHS. He explaine ... Read more
Anna Jones I had asked my surgeon about A-Fib. He said it happens about 50% of the time after OHS. He explained it is just one of the ways the heart reacts to the stress from the surgery. He also had me look up SIRS.
Sending best wishes that the A-Fib will be controlled soon and that recovery can proceed smoothly.
Don L Thinking of you Jim, love your attitude and humor. Keep us posted.
Rose Madura Be thankful you were still in the hospital when you went into Afib. I was released on a Monday night ... Read more
Rose Madura Be thankful you were still in the hospital when you went into Afib. I was released on a Monday night (Yes night 9 pm) and within 24 hours was rushed via ambulance because of Afib. I'm very symptomatic so my body couldn't handle it well. You can read my posts if you'd like. I totally understand regarding doctors getting on the same page. I would venture to say that the surgeon will now defer to the cardiologist. There is a video on this website about Afib. It may be worth your while. In most cases, it will correct itself with 6 weeks. Best wishes. Please keep us posted.
Steven Perrotta Good luck Jim. Keep a positive attitude! I am praying for you.
Mark Wilbur Hi Jim! Wondered why there hadn't been an update. I'm sorry that you have something more to worry a ... Read more
Mark Wilbur Hi Jim! Wondered why there hadn't been an update. I'm sorry that you have something more to worry about. My wife also developed afib while in the hospital, so we know what you're going through. It may take a little while to get it under control, but it will be. Did they not do the Maze procedure as originally planned? Prayers for your healing.
Jim Harvey Hi, today's update on all this is I've gone another day with no a fib or missed beats, and my heart i ... Read more
Jim Harvey Hi, today's update on all this is I've gone another day with no a fib or missed beats, and my heart is making signs that it's getting back to normal sinus rhythm. Thanks for all your prayers! Plan is to take the post surgery wires out today, maybe stay one more day to see if everything remains within expectations.
I just wrote a real long update that didn't get taken up to the site.
Long story short is I am still in the hospital awaiting opinions on if I need a pacemaker.. ...Read more
I just wrote a real long update that didn't get taken up to the site.
Long story short is I am still in the hospital awaiting opinions on if I need a pacemaker..
I'll try to post again later.
Anna Jones Jim, sending prayers for answers and better days ahead.
Hi everyone,
Meredith here again. My dad is doing well today. Last night his blood pressure was going down too often, and he was pretty uncomfortable. It ...Read more
Hi everyone,
Meredith here again. My dad is doing well today. Last night his blood pressure was going down too often, and he was pretty uncomfortable. It was hard to watch. But the nurses gave him more volume (liquids?) which helped put a little more pressure on his heart. The nurse said that before the surgery, his heart was used to feeling more pressure. But after the surgery, with his heart working better, there was less pressure on his heart, thus making his blood pressure wonky.
He looks and sounds so much better today. In more pain, but is overall much better.
He is getting moved to the Telemetry Unit in about an hour.
Thank you for all your continued prayers and support. As he puts it, you are one of his tribes.
-Meredith
Helen Daw Thanks for the update! Will continue to pray for him.
Mark Wilbur Thank you, Meredith. As one of his "tribes," those of us here always want to know how he progresses. ... Read more
Mark Wilbur Thank you, Meredith. As one of his "tribes," those of us here always want to know how he progresses. It's good news that he's out of ICU. It may take a couple of days to get the bp under control, but they'll work it out. Prayers by many here for his continued recovery.
Carolyn Newell Will continue prayers for Jim! I'm next same hospital so I hope they are taking good care of him. Gla ... Read more
Carolyn Newell Will continue prayers for Jim! I'm next same hospital so I hope they are taking good care of him. Glad he's doing better today and thank you for the update.
Rose Madura He is in the right place. They know what to do. Glad everything is going well.
Don L Great news Jim! Looking forward to reading Jim's sense of humor soon!
Hi everyone,
Jim's daughter, Meredith, here. Just wanted to give you all a quick update on how my dad's OHS went.
Surgery went very well with Dr. Ott and ...Read more
Hi everyone,
Jim's daughter, Meredith, here. Just wanted to give you all a quick update on how my dad's OHS went.
Surgery went very well with Dr. Ott and lasted about 5 1/2 hours. They did a repair instead of a replacement, which is great news.
My dad is in the CICU now, starting to wake up. He is in a great deal of pain, so please keep him in your prayers. Hoping that we can get the pain management under control quickly. I will continue to post updates for him until he is ready. He is supposed to be sitting up by tonight.
Thank you for you all your support for my dad, it really is comforting to know that he has so many people who can relate to what he has gone through.
-Meredith
Rose Madura Glad he came through ok. Hopefully the pain can be controlled.
Mark Wilbur Thanks for the update. Thought about him several times today; prayers for him and for his family, to ... Read more
Mark Wilbur Thanks for the update. Thought about him several times today; prayers for him and for his family, too.
Deb Lewis If staff hasn’t yet provided it, here is what helped me “stay on top of the pain” — I found i ... Read more
Deb Lewis If staff hasn’t yet provided it, here is what helped me “stay on top of the pain” — I found it helpful to have a pump where I could push a button to have medication released into my IV. It is set up in a way you can’t overdose. I found it much easier to have this level of immediate control than to wait on nurses.
Jim Harvey Unfortunately they don't use pumps here, they found too many well meaning family and friends helping ... Read more
Jim Harvey Unfortunately they don't use pumps here, they found too many well meaning family and friends helping out! But I'm already on the cutback plan trying to minimize the oxy and maximize the Tylenol.. So far chest tubes here the worst but after they cam out things have stabilized.
Mark Wilbur Very sorry that you have had to endure the unexpected pain levels, and happy to hear that things have ... Read more
Mark Wilbur Very sorry that you have had to endure the unexpected pain levels, and happy to hear that things have stabilized and should continue to get better. Still in our prayers, Jim.
Here's one other thing I did recently to learn more about what's happening to me. I asked my doctor what kind of valve they'd use (artificial) if he cannot ...Read more
Here's one other thing I did recently to learn more about what's happening to me. I asked my doctor what kind of valve they'd use (artificial) if he cannot repair my MV. I got the manufacturer and the brand, which I was then able to look up and read more about.
So much more confidence and less anxiety when you have knowledge.
Carolyn Newell Jim, that's great! Can I ask what kind of valve they use as I'm having my OHS at St. Vincent's too on ... Read more
Carolyn Newell Jim, that's great! Can I ask what kind of valve they use as I'm having my OHS at St. Vincent's too on April 24th. I was told by their office you can tell them which one you want the day of the surgery.
Helen Daw I asked the same question. I wanted to do know (even though he told me 100% repairable) I still wante ... Read more
Helen Daw I asked the same question. I wanted to do know (even though he told me 100% repairable) I still wanted to know.
Jim Harvey Hi Helen and Carolyn, I was told it would be the Magna Ease from Carpentier-Edwards.
Carolyn Newell No kidding!! That's the one I'm looking at. I'll pray that you have it repaired though and not replac ... Read more
Carolyn Newell No kidding!! That's the one I'm looking at. I'll pray that you have it repaired though and not replaced.
Rose Madura That's the aortic valve I got. The Edwards Magna. (Not the Ease). My husband did a lot of research ... Read more
Rose Madura That's the aortic valve I got. The Edwards Magna. (Not the Ease). My husband did a lot of research and found it waxx one of the best so we asked if the surgeon would be able to use it. We found out it was the only valve he uses.
Monday morning was my angiogram, the last scheduled test prior to surgery. 6am arrival time at the hospital, ugh. But I hear it's better to be the first on ...Read more
Monday morning was my angiogram, the last scheduled test prior to surgery. 6am arrival time at the hospital, ugh. But I hear it's better to be the first on the schedule so small sacrifice of a few hours of sleep.
I won't go into detail of the test here other to say it involved accessing a pulsating artery, snaking a tube from my wrist up to my heart, and shaving in a place I'd rather they hadn't shaved. But the biggest deal is I passed! Which just means the "possibility" of additional time on the heart lung machine in order to do bypasses just dropped off the anxiety list.
Hoorah and Hallelujah!
Gregory Brummett I need to have the same test done soon. Do they give you enough sedation to relax before they insert ... Read more
Gregory Brummett I need to have the same test done soon. Do they give you enough sedation to relax before they insert into the wrist artery? Much soreness/pain at the artery insertion site?
Jim Harvey Hi Gregory -- from what I was told, this is all about 'best practice' in that most do it the same way ... Read more
Jim Harvey Hi Gregory -- from what I was told, this is all about 'best practice' in that most do it the same way. For prep, the nurse put a numbing cream on my wrist, which was there probably at least an hour. Once in the surgery suite and when they injected the sedation, although I was awake I didn't feel a thing. Afterwards, they kept me for around 3 hours with pressure on the site, then sent me home with a semi-rigid board velcroed around my wrist and hand and instructions to keep it pretty much in place for 48 hours. No real soreness.
tribe
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1. a social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, ...Read more
tribe
(noun): tribe; plural noun: tribes
1. a social division in a traditional society consisting of families or communities linked by social, economic, religious, or blood ties, with a common culture and dialect
Wow.
I am so blessed anyhow, but so much more so with this surgery coming up in April.
This journal has been a conduit to better communication with family and friends. Some of my friends I see once or twice a week where we play pickleball for a few hours. (If you don’t know what pickleball is, google it). I’d already told a few of them about my upcoming surgery.
So the other night when I was sitting out between games, the play stopped and everyone gathered around (there were 12). Craig explained to those who didn’t know that I had this upcoming surgery, and explained that in the bible, God told Joshua (Joshua 4:1-7) that as a way for the 12 tribes of Israel (did I mention there were 12 guys there?) to remember what they had been through and God’s goodness that they should have someone from each tribe take a stone from the Jordan river and put it on the bank as a memorial, and so that their future generations would know as well. (These were BIG stones). Back to pickleball - then a bag of small stones was passed around, and everyone took one, with it being a reminder as they carried it around to pray for me. The men then all gathered around me and prayed. I can’t even begin to describe how it felt, this “tribe” of mine, with a recreational sport in common who all are praying for me and my upcoming surgery.
It made me remember, I have other tribes. And I have other people who are coming alongside me.
Brad and David, who pray for me each step of the way.
RTM, who although miles away would drop everything to be here that week.
My kids and their spouses, who will be our most helpful hands-on support for Danna.
My family from church, who are walking with me through this and will also support Danna and I in recovery.
My family in both N and S California and Jeanne too..
My good friends from FFCC, and my good friends representing the “local competition.”
I can’t leave out my website valve tribe either, we are all so caring and supportive for a virtual tribe.
And there are others...
To conclude, could I ask each of you to do something for me? Find a small rock and carry it around in your pocket for the next few weeks. When you remember, please say a prayer for me, for Danna, and for the skilled medical professionals at Providence St. Vincent’s hospital who will be in charge of my operation and care.
I write this not only to express my gratitude to my tribe, but to encourage others going through heart surgery to seek out your tribes, share your story and navigate your way forward. My fellow tribe member here Gina just wrote about the many positive changes that occurred in her life as a result of going through this. I couldn’t wish the surgery on anyone, but I could wish them such a journey.
Thanks!
Mark Wilbur I have carried a token labeled "wisdom" in my pocket for years. I will use that also as my reminder t ... Read more
Mark Wilbur I have carried a token labeled "wisdom" in my pocket for years. I will use that also as my reminder to daily say a prayer for you and for all who share here for the benefit of others -- and, especially on their surgery day for them and their families, too. Thank you for sharing this story, Jim. "Tribe." I like that.
Barbara Laurie So glad you have Christians around to pray for you. Today is my two year anniversary of my first OHS. ... Read more
Barbara Laurie So glad you have Christians around to pray for you. Today is my two year anniversary of my first OHS. Without the prayers of many and God’s merciful hand 🤷🏻♀️I can’t imagine. Thankfully I can say, God Bless and good health. May you experience His nearness daily. ❤️
Gina Fiorentino Hi Jim, I posted an image last week of a "heart-shaped" recessed part of the sidewalk that I stumbled ... Read more
Gina Fiorentino Hi Jim, I posted an image last week of a "heart-shaped" recessed part of the sidewalk that I stumbled upon last week at the end of my street as I was counting the blessings of this community. It seemed particularly auspicious as someone had taken a chalkline around it and placed a single pebble inside. It made me instantly happy to see it- as if it was a sign of healing and connection (I'm a sucker for symbolism in nature). Today, after reading your post/request, I thought of that single pebble inside the heart that I found. I went back to see if it was still there and it was, so I borrowed it (and replaced it with another pebble) to use as a daily reminder to keep you in my thoughts during your surgery time. Its kind of a neat image if you want to look for it in my previous journal entry on my member page.
I’m getting ready for surgery. Mentally ready.
In the practical sense, mental preparation for me might be different than how other people facing heart ...Read more
I’m getting ready for surgery. Mentally ready.
In the practical sense, mental preparation for me might be different than how other people facing heart surgery prepare themselves. Some people swear by meditation for example. I’m already enough of an introvert that meditation might just push me too far down that spectrum.
No, for me it’s practical. Here are a few things that help me see beyond the actual surgery rather than being filled with dread and anticipation.
1. First and foremost, my faith. I know I’ll wake up somewhere, this isn’t necessarily my only option.
2. I’ve been going back and forth on buying a new driver for golf. I think I’ll do that before April 9th.
3. I’m going to make sure we have some green bananas here before I go under the knife. (Some people might not understand that, ask someone).
4. I made a dental appointment for a check-up in September.
5. I’m taking new clients for work beginning the week after I get home.
6. I have an appointment to have my car detailed on May 1 (OK, well that one could be done without me I suppose).
7. I asked Danna to schedule a week in Manzanita for us sometime in June.
I know there are a few other “advance” actions I’m taking, but you get the idea…
Gina Fiorentino Hi Jim, I like that list.... I had my own list too, so I think it's great to have those things that ... Read more
Gina Fiorentino Hi Jim, I like that list.... I had my own list too, so I think it's great to have those things that bring peace and other things to look forward to. I have to ask though... you are taking on NEW clients the week you return from the hospital?
Mark Wilbur Great list, Jim. Great attitude, too. And a week on the Oregon Coast definitely is something to loo ... Read more
Mark Wilbur Great list, Jim. Great attitude, too. And a week on the Oregon Coast definitely is something to look forward to. You will especially enjoy it... this time more than ever.
Jim Harvey Hi Gina - the new clients are those I'm starting with now with intent to work with them when I get ho ... Read more
Jim Harvey Hi Gina - the new clients are those I'm starting with now with intent to work with them when I get home (I work from home, mostly computer and phone)
First pre-test (beyond all the lead-up to this) was the CT scan today at Providence St. Vincent's hospital. Danna went with me as although I had some idea ...Read more
First pre-test (beyond all the lead-up to this) was the CT scan today at Providence St. Vincent's hospital. Danna went with me as although I had some idea of what to expect, some of the instructions were a little vague. Anyhow, other than the length of time they left the needle in my arm, which made me a little queasy, it was over and done with pretty quickly.
The CT scan is done with an IV of iodine in the bloodstream, which adds contrast to the pictures being taken of my heart. From this they can see any potential blockages that might be there (I guess that's the case with the angiogram as well, but measured a different way).
I never study for these tests, I hope I passed!
Don L Hi Jim, glad it went well! Definitely less invasive than a cardiac catherization. I was told more ... Read more
Don L Hi Jim, glad it went well! Definitely less invasive than a cardiac catherization. I was told more complete picture.(coronary,chest, and abdomen CT). They found a couple other items I have to keep eye on like disc slippage). You got this.
John Lant Jim, best wishes on your upcoming surgery.
I saw my cardiologist last week; he invited me to see him, it wasn't something I expected since he had referred me to a surgeon for the valve surgery.
The ...Read more
I saw my cardiologist last week; he invited me to see him, it wasn't something I expected since he had referred me to a surgeon for the valve surgery.
The visit was essentially to talk about what was happening, but he spent more time than I expected on the angiogram. I had been told that this was a standard pre-surgical procedure to help map out the blood vessels around the heart so the surgeon knows where things are, no surprises, etc. Seemed like a good idea.
So there is that... then there is also the opportunity to look at the degree to which any blood vessels may have blockage. Why you ask? Because while we're in there, we might as well fix whatever else needs fixing! Apparently there is an element to the angiogram of using a tool that measures blood flow (degree of blockage). If it's >50%, they will also do a bypass "as long as the hood is open."
And oh by the way -- sometimes the heart doesn't like the "pre-op" procedures. Heart attacks, strokes, "D", all the things that add anxiety to this adventure.
Valve jobs...hoods...no one has offered any warranties yet. I was hoping maybe there was a loaner program while my body heals afterwards!
Michael Neverisky "Warranty"... yes,a sense of humor is helpful! My original equipment valve lasted 60 years... you'll ... Read more
Michael Neverisky "Warranty"... yes,a sense of humor is helpful! My original equipment valve lasted 60 years... you'll never get that kind of longevity from Ford or Honda, so I made it a point to thank my heart prior to surgery for its constancy.
Deb Lewis Think of heart surgery as being reset to original factory settings
Gina Fiorentino Once I realized that my heart had not betrayed me with the mitral valve prolapse, I was able to prope ... Read more
Gina Fiorentino Once I realized that my heart had not betrayed me with the mitral valve prolapse, I was able to properly grieve, find gratitude, and begin a deeper process of healing and forgiveness.
Valerie Archual Hey Jim! I am certainly praying for you and the anxiety to this adventure is real! I understand! lol! ... Read more
Valerie Archual Hey Jim! I am certainly praying for you and the anxiety to this adventure is real! I understand! lol! But as I told Gina, it really wasn't NEAR as bad as I thought it would be!!! My prayers are continuing for you as your surgery date approaches!!! Hang in there! And oh, btw, thanks so much for the blog read!!
I saw my cardiologist yesterday, approaching 3 weeks pre-surgery. One thing I am finding very useful is asking different experts the same question. For example, ...Read more
I saw my cardiologist yesterday, approaching 3 weeks pre-surgery. One thing I am finding very useful is asking different experts the same question. For example, I had in notes from first meeting with my surgeon that an artificial valve could be replaced through a vein without second OHS. But had heard elsewhere that was not the case. Anyway, my cardiologist took me through it in detail that although it has taken longer to perfect that with the mitral valve that it is being done, and by the time an artificial valve in me (if MV cannot be repaired) would need to be replaced, it will be much more common place.
I also learned a whole lot more about my coming angiogram. In addition to mapping blood vessels, it will tell my surgeon whether or not he should do a bypass of any sort while I am "open and available." I had no idea that 1) the angiogram was also intended for that and 2) that it was something that could occur during my surgery. But makes perfect sense.
I also talked to him about the robotic approach vs. OHS. In a case of the possibility of a valve repair, but fallback position of replacement after evaluation of 'repair-ability', it is better to already have the chest open. My cardiologist also mentioned studies of robotic vs. OHS efficacy of repair and replace, and said at Providence they ended up seeing faster recurrence of leakage after robotic surgery vs. OHS. His take was that when a surgeon is "hands-on" their tactile capabilities are greater, and even being able to stitch in the annulplasty ring for example yields better outcomes for the patient.
I'm still skittish about going through all of this, but also certain in my faith and where I see God's faithfulness, having first alerted me with an a-fib incident back in 2016 that got me on a regular regimen with my cardiologist, who established the MVR "watch" through the baseline of the echocardiogram. I've learned so much about the human heart and how we are "fearfully and wonderfully made."
Steve Farthing Another option hardly ever mentioned is small incision endoscopic mitral repair or replace which does ... Read more
Steve Farthing Another option hardly ever mentioned is small incision endoscopic mitral repair or replace which does not require as many incisions as 'robotic'. The main problem seems to be not many surgeons know how to do it. It also provides some hands-on tactile feedback to the surgeon which robotic does not. If you find a surgeon that does this method, that can be an excellent option for some. FYI - some surgeons use metal clips instead of traditional stitching of the annuloplasty band since it is faster so less time on bypass.
Bonnie Stone-Hope As they say "knowledge is power".
Really makes the surgery easier when you understand what/how the p ... Read more
Bonnie Stone-Hope As they say "knowledge is power".
Really makes the surgery easier when you understand what/how the procedure will be done.
Michael Neverisky Hi Jim. Good for you! I agree with Bonnie, understanding the options and procedures helped me underst ... Read more
Michael Neverisky Hi Jim. Good for you! I agree with Bonnie, understanding the options and procedures helped me understand this big, new thing in my life. It also helped me see how routine these procedures have become for the cardiology experts who treat us.
I also had an angiogram prior to the MVR surgery. Yes, a diagnostic and discovery procedure. Relatively simple, I think the actual procedure took 15 minutes.
For my case, as a 59 year old in excellent health (mitral regurgitation notwithstanding), the three cardiologist and three surgeons with whom I spoke all advocated the tried-and-true sternotomy OHS approach over other options. For the reasons you highlighted as well as a reduced time on the heart-lung machine, the better to avoid possible complications from that. I am extremely pleased with the results and grateful for their guidance.
I will also add that my sternum was closed with both wire and rigid titanium braces. I took only Tylenol for mild discomfort and stopped that completely after a week at home.
Best wishes to you!
Jim Harvey Michael, sounds like you and I have a lot in common, thanks for posting!
How wonderful that you have this resource to be able to hear first-hand about others' experiences wit ... Read more
How wonderful that you have this resource to be able to hear first-hand about others' experiences with this surgery, and can benefit from their knowledge and advice, Jim. I am so glad that you are investigating thoroughly and asking "all the questions."
Friday my surgeon called me to answer a few questions I had as I prepare for MVR in about a month. Highlights:
1. At the hospital (St. Vincent's in Portland) ...Read more
Friday my surgeon called me to answer a few questions I had as I prepare for MVR in about a month. Highlights:
1. At the hospital (St. Vincent's in Portland) they used to use the DaVinci robot, but no longer do because the patient stays under anesthesia longer than with sternotomy. Increases risk without beneficial outcome.
2. They typically do not do mini-sternotomy because it requires cutting muscle, which can cause more pain in recovery. Also does not provide as much operating area.
3. The SternalockBlu device for sternal closures has been looked at but he feels is inferior to wire closure, and restricts future access.
4. He says there is a national data base for heart surgeries that records every surgery. Haven't found it yet, but it also shows how many surgeries your doctor has done. If I find it, I'll post here. If anyone else knows this already, please post.
5. He's going to attempt a repair to my MV, but says the tissue may continue to stretch afterwards, causing new regurgitation. "Game-time" decision as to whether to attempt the repair or go with replacement.
Susan Killian My surgery is April 11, My surgeon took time to show my husband and I on the computer basically what ... Read more
Susan Killian My surgery is April 11, My surgeon took time to show my husband and I on the computer basically what he will be doing and why. I will be having the sternotomy also with a mechanical valve back up if he can't repair, but he was very optimistic that he would be able to repair.
Just curious did you get a second opinion for the surgery? I am not familiar with the database, but the surgeon should know how many mitral valve repairs they have done. Based on journal results there is a correlation with total number of repairs and the number frequency of repairs (e.g. 2 repairs a week.
The following paper is pretty comprehensive. I have not seen the latest studies. There are some disadvantages. I made up a chart to reflect both the advantages and disadvantages of a median sternotomy to robotic repair. There are some excellent surgeons that do not practice minimally invasive techniques and they have been quite successful so there is a certain comfort with the procedure.
Learning Minimally Invasive Mitral Valve Surgery
A Cumulative Sum Sequential Probability Analysis of 3895 Operations
From a Single High-Volume Center
David M. Holzhey, MD, PhD; Joerg Seeburger, MD; Martin Misfeld, MD, PhD;
Michael A. Borger, MD, PhD; Friedrich W. Mohr, MD, PhD
which you can filter by state. It mostly gives the outcome percentages of individual surgeons.
The first surgeon I spoke to said basically the same thing about the robotic surgery. He also stressed the additional time on the heart lung machine which can cause postperfusion syndrome.
The first surgeon I spoke to said the same thing about the SternalockBlu device. He said wire would be better. I was concerned because I have sever osteoporosis.
It sounds like you have found a really good surgeon. Best wishes for an easy surgery and recovery.
Which heart valve or heart bypass surgery surgeons in Alabama get the best outcomes? Find/compare surgeons plus their death and complication rates.
Kaitlynn Dawson Hello! First of all, I wish you luck. Second of all, have you looked into a minimally invasive techni ... Read more
Kaitlynn Dawson Hello! First of all, I wish you luck. Second of all, have you looked into a minimally invasive technique, or a surgeon that does the minimally invasive techniques? I visited several surgeons that would only do a sternotomny, until I found Dr. Doolabh that specializes in a minimally invasive technique that led to a much shorter, less painful recovery. Obviously I am not a doctor, but i totally believe it is worth looking into.
Gina Fiorentino From what my surgeon told me (if I understood him correctly), is that
as far as the outcomes websit ... Read more
Gina Fiorentino From what my surgeon told me (if I understood him correctly), is that
as far as the outcomes website, I think you're looking for www.sts.org. I do not think any of the sites report out on isolated mitral valve surgery, and unfortunately, they do not report out on individual surgeons. They report on hospitals, and surgical groups. And reports are limited to aortic valve surgery and bypass surgery for now. l also saw reports on heart surgery on the "Leapfrog" database.
That being said, I have read multiple times that it is very important to discuss candidly with a prospective surgeon: the number of times they have performed the surgery and also their success rate. I saw an informative video on You Tube saying that the individual outcomes should be published on paper, not just given verbally... but then again, each person has to advocate for themselves. Personally, I was not able to obtain published outcomes from Kaiser Permanente, and so I went about the tricky business of discontinuing my insurance, got a new plan and chose new cardiologist and surgeon. I'm sure I got a few more gray hairs during the process room but peace of mind is priceless.
Michael Neverisky Hi Jim. I had my mitral valve repaired on Feb 8th, I'm feeling better today than I have in months and ... Read more
Michael Neverisky Hi Jim. I had my mitral valve repaired on Feb 8th, I'm feeling better today than I have in months and I couldn't feel better about the decisions I made regarding surgery.
I interviewed a surgeon and cardiologist in my native New Hampshire as well as a few doctors at some high profile hospitals in Boston. The consensus was that given my otherwise excellent health and young age (59!) the best option would be the old-fashioned full sternotomy approach. The reasons being, less time on the heart-lung machine, best accessibility for the surgical team and decades of historical data about a procedure that's been performed thousands of times.
My sternum was closed with both wires and titanium plates and I have had zero pain since being discharged three weeks ago.
Yes, final decision was made at "game time", but I chose the surgeon who had no doubt in his ability to repair over the one who gave me a 60% chance of repair versus replacement.
Best wishes to you for similarly smooth sailing!
Dan Marcantel Jim I question this statement here below. My Surgeon from Mayo told me that what he did could not be ... Read more
Dan Marcantel Jim I question this statement here below. My Surgeon from Mayo told me that what he did could not be undone. Meaning once he cut out the bad part out, fixed the chord it is a rarity for repair of course they do happen. I researched a lot and when I had mine at 48, now 50. Repair had the best outcomes.
I even did minimally invasive through right side not a full sternotomy. I'd ask him how many repairs he has done they get offended when you ask them sometimes. Most good surgeons prefer to repair than replace they don't usually give you a choice.
This would cause me to question him.
"He's going to attempt a repair to my MV, but says the tissue may continue to stretch afterwards, causing new regurgitation. "Game-time" decision as to whether to attempt the repair or go with replacement."
Jim Harvey Anna Jones, that link you sent (and for others reading this) is national, not just for the headline s ... Read more
Jim Harvey Anna Jones, that link you sent (and for others reading this) is national, not just for the headline state (Alabama). Very helpful, thank you!
Jim Harvey Thank you all for responses. From what I've read repair is still the preferred approach which is wha ... Read more
Jim Harvey Thank you all for responses. From what I've read repair is still the preferred approach which is what my surgeon will first attempt, but without seeing the tissue (in his experience) he cannot be as sure that repair is going to be an option. So it's not that he's shrugging his shoulders as if he doesn't know what to do, he's just not going to commit to one or the other until he can see the valve up close.
Dan Marcantel My surgeon said the same thing to a degree. Told me 90% repair but if not replace. It's to cover thei ... Read more
Dan Marcantel My surgeon said the same thing to a degree. Told me 90% repair but if not replace. It's to cover their asses. I'd still say go minimally invasive through right side. I just have a small scar under my pec not the big one down the middle which I am pleased with. Same if not better access to the mitral valve and outcome was great as well.
Bonnie Stone-Hope Hello Jim,
My Mom had a mitral valve replacement 20 years ago so I assumed I would also get a replace ... Read more
Bonnie Stone-Hope Hello Jim,
My Mom had a mitral valve replacement 20 years ago so I assumed I would also get a replacement. However, my surgeon advised me that repair is the preferred surgery now. I chose a pig valve, just in case he could not repair. Mom had no issues, no infection following her surgery so I had no problem having the full sternotomy. My surgeon did not offer the minimal invasive but that was fine with me.
When I told a good friend of mine about upcoming MVR, he connected me to his next door neighbor, a retired cardiologist and surgeon. Great guy, even invited ...Read more
When I told a good friend of mine about upcoming MVR, he connected me to his next door neighbor, a retired cardiologist and surgeon. Great guy, even invited me over to his house to talk. I brought copy of my last echo, and after he reviewed it, we talked about a few specific questions I wanted to confirm after first hearing from my own cardiologist and then the surgeon he referred me to. (Then we looked at his classic car collection, but that's for a different journal.)
This is not so much about the advice or consult he gave as much as being able to talk to someone else who's done this for many years and shared perspectives, experiences, offered advice, etc. I know others always talk about getting additional opinions, and I can tell you even though the news doesn't change -- I still need the operation -- it's good to get more and more educated.
I've asked my wife to take some time to read Adam's book as well as get more familiar with the details. When the surgeon comes out and needs to discuss something with her, I want her to be able to feel confident what she's hearing and understand it.
Marie Myers It is a real eye-opener when someone tells you that you need open heart surgery. Sounds like you have ... Read more
Marie Myers It is a real eye-opener when someone tells you that you need open heart surgery. Sounds like you have a good start on your support team. One of the most amazing and comforting things to me was that the surgery I was to have (AVR, Aortic root and ascending aneurysm replacement) was considered one of my surgeons's "commonly performed procedures".Totally amazing to me! And yes, I got through it well, went back to part time work in 8 weeks, and feel now like I am "back to normal" It is All an amazing journey. All the best to you!
Jim Harvey Thanks Marie, I appreciate the encouragement!
Nicholas Belle Hi Marie...Facing the same procedure with possible bypass to boot...Abit concerned about the addition ... Read more
Nicholas Belle Hi Marie...Facing the same procedure with possible bypass to boot...Abit concerned about the additional work...
Bonnie Stone-Hope Welcome to this community, Jim. Lots of information on this blog.
Michael Neverisky Hi Jim. Thanks for sharing your story. I had my mitral valve repaired two weeks ago today via the "ol ... Read more
Michael Neverisky Hi Jim. Thanks for sharing your story. I had my mitral valve repaired two weeks ago today via the "old school" full sternotomy method and I could not be more pleased with the results. Home in 5 days, discomforts managed with only Tylenol and off pain meds completely now for several days. The shortness of breath and light headedness was gone... zero... the day after surgery.
Regarding reality check, the truth is that although heart surgery is invasive and technically complex, it is a very well trod medical path. Trust the skill, education and experience of your providers and I think you will be surprised at how smoothly this may go. That is my wish for you, a surgery with excellent results and a boring, uneventful recovery .
Jim Harvey Michael, you are very encouraging! I am still reading everything I can to try and fully understand i ... Read more
Jim Harvey Michael, you are very encouraging! I am still reading everything I can to try and fully understand it all. I'm also scheduled for "old school" although I think I'd prefer DaVinci, but my surgeon tells me the hospital has decided not to use it any more.
I'm especially encouraged by your recovery without excessive use of pain meds. thanks again
Hi,
For those of you in Portland OR, and have had surgery at Providence St Vincent's: Did anyone have MVR surgery with the DaVinci robot? I'm told they no ...Read more
Hi,
For those of you in Portland OR, and have had surgery at Providence St Vincent's: Did anyone have MVR surgery with the DaVinci robot? I'm told they no longer use it.
thanks