1 year surgery anniversary today. I can’t believe it’s been a year since my mitral valve repair - and it’s been a long time since I posted. But I wanted ...Read more
1 year surgery anniversary today. I can’t believe it’s been a year since my mitral valve repair - and it’s been a long time since I posted. But I wanted to share with everyone in this community my good thoughts and wishes for your own journey! For me, I am back to doing pretty much everything I was doing before - but with a greater sense of perspective and “seize the day”. I guess heart surgery does that for you. To celebrate this heart-a-versary I hit the road bike hard - 75+ miles/7000 feet of climbing - on this beautiful fall day in the MidAtlantic. I did something similar 6 months out, and am ever grateful. So yes, surgery is scary, and the recovery is never linear nor lock-step - but it is amazing what the docs can do when they find this thing and fix it.
When I went under the knife six months ago, my cardiologist said “within six months you should be able to resume your prior level of activities at the same ...Read more
When I went under the knife six months ago, my cardiologist said “within six months you should be able to resume your prior level of activities at the same - if not better - level of intensity”. As a lifetime endurance athlete, I was skeptical - and curious. Also very focused - and hopeful - that the mitral valve surgery would take care of something that was posing a material risk to my health and longevity. My near term aspiration was to be able to get back on the bike and knock out long, hard rides without feeling poorly. So here we are, six months out, and I am coming off a weekend that included a fantastic early season century with over 100+ miles/10K+ feet of climbing - all at a vigorous and challenging pace - I think 6.5+ hours of riding with an average HR ~ 145 or so (with some peaks on the climbs well above that). And as it relates to my heart - I didn’t notice it one way or the other. It did what it had to do and then some (although my legs were feeling it as we entered the seventh hour of riding). All of this is a long winded way of saying: “trust the process, trust the recovery” and believe it or not, you can get back to what you were doing, and perhaps “and then some”.
Sue Maize Wow Raj! At first I was nervous you were going to say something else contrary to what the surgeon sa... Read more
Sue Maize Wow Raj! At first I was nervous you were going to say something else contrary to what the surgeon said! 😅 So happy to hear this great news story! I want my new activity level to be way better than my older way—I didn't look after my health and fitness very well, but I have lost 25 lbs as part of my prehab, and I am determined to not waste this precious gift of life another second. I'm so inspired by stories like yours, thanks for sharing!
Susan Dunne Amazing. You've just got to believe and keep at it👍
Rose Madura How great is that! Congratulations! I concur, although I'm not an athlete, I am just enjoying the fa ... Read more
Rose Madura How great is that! Congratulations! I concur, although I'm not an athlete, I am just enjoying the fact that I can do more than I ever could. It's awesome 😎.
Rebecca J Fantastic Raj! Wonderful way to utilize your recovery and optimize your health! I consider myself pre ... Read more
Rebecca J Fantastic Raj! Wonderful way to utilize your recovery and optimize your health! I consider myself pretty energetic and am looking forward to more energy and better health after surgery and recovery. You’re an inspiration!
J Alexander Lassally A great role model- congratulations on the rapid rise back to normalcy and then some.
Hi - I’m 3 months post mitral valve surgery - recovery (exercise, eating, sleeping etc.) has gone well - but wondering from others if the frequency of odd-ball ...Read more
Hi - I’m 3 months post mitral valve surgery - recovery (exercise, eating, sleeping etc.) has gone well - but wondering from others if the frequency of odd-ball “sternum pain” (not by the heart, and not necessarily by the incision) has been something that folks have either gotten used to, or something that has receded. My cardiologist mentioned that patients who had the mini-mitral (through the right side) tended to have a lot of nerve pain that came and went - but my context and experience is only 3 months - so wondering if others can chime in.
Pamela Gregory I had a mini-sternotomy and had on and off pains throughout the first year recovering. Not really pai ... Read more
Pamela Gregory I had a mini-sternotomy and had on and off pains throughout the first year recovering. Not really pain but discomfort mostly center, slightly right side where they cut across the bone. Definitely better now at 15 months post surgery.
Greg Lewis Hi Raj! I was supposed to have a mini, but wound up with the full meal deal! I get oddball pains in c ... Read more
Greg Lewis Hi Raj! I was supposed to have a mini, but wound up with the full meal deal! I get oddball pains in certain places all the time. I am a couple years out now. I am sure a lot is caused by scar tissue, and the muscles in my chest, abdominal, back, and diaphragm do not move perfectly now because of the scar tissue. It has gotten better over time, but there is chronic pain now. I try to not focus on it, and that helps it a lot! I had a lot of sternum pains for a long time, but they have receded now. I would mention that I also had to have 4 epicardial wires left in, that "float around" and are all still attached to my heart. (Actually they were able to yank one out, so now three) So, they could be causing some phantom pains too. I also think the sternum wires caused pain too. So some pains change, some are scar tissue, and some have gone away, and some are there, I believe permanently. But it's all good! Oh ya, and I remember having the chest area massaged a few times. That helped it a lot, just tell them to take it easy, though. Good luck with your pain management!
Richard Munson Had some occasional mini nerve regrowth pain for 6-8 months but it eventually goes away.
Today is one month post surgery…had my “final” check in with the surgery team last week and they saw the incision, reviewed the chest x-rays, and in general, ...Read more
Today is one month post surgery…had my “final” check in with the surgery team last week and they saw the incision, reviewed the chest x-rays, and in general, gave me the thumbs up (“looks great - we hope we never have to see you again!”). I have my cardiologist follow-up in one week’s time. Question for those who have had this surgery - and in particular the mini (through the side)…while the incision itself is healing, have others experienced what feels like an intense/painful “pulling” during certain motions (for me, it is reaching down with my right arm to pick something up) - it’s something that has sprouted up recently. Wondering if this is a function of becoming more active as the overall OHS recovery progresses? Other than Tylenol and stretching/heat etc., anything to do here?
J Alexander Lassally Congrats, Raj, on this big milestone. Seems like yesterday you were just single digits out of hospita ... Read more
J Alexander Lassally Congrats, Raj, on this big milestone. Seems like yesterday you were just single digits out of hospital! I thank you so much for your support!
Svetlomir Ivanov Hey, RaJ, how are doing? How many km. do you walk, whats is your resting heart rate and blood pressur ... Read more
Svetlomir Ivanov Hey, RaJ, how are doing? How many km. do you walk, whats is your resting heart rate and blood pressure? I am asking, because we are prety similar: I am 50 y.o., and have mitral valve repair on 14.09.2023 trough the right breast.. I am 187 sm/ 80 kg. What kind of pills are you taking now?
Hi all - 3 weeks post surgery and day by day, feeling better. I am able to go for walks, ride my bike, do PT etc. One thing I have noticed though is that ...Read more
Hi all - 3 weeks post surgery and day by day, feeling better. I am able to go for walks, ride my bike, do PT etc. One thing I have noticed though is that my resting HR is decidedly higher than it used to be (and this is with me cutting back to 1 cup of coffee a day - only in the AM). I am probably +15-20bp or so vs. levels pre-surgery (which was quite low - mid 40s). My cardiologist has taken me off beta blockers (which feels great) and otherwise I feel pretty good, but wondering from others: post surgery, is it normal to have a higher base rate for resting pulse? Or is this something that settles back down to pre-surgery levels over time. FWIW, there is no adverse fluid retention etc. (weight has been very consistent). Seeing the surgical team later this week for my official post-op visit so will hopefully learn more than but this forum has been a wealth of information so wanted to try here as well!
Allen Carkner 20 to 40 elevated seems about right the first month or two. My surgeon described the heart as "irrita ... Read more
Allen Carkner 20 to 40 elevated seems about right the first month or two. My surgeon described the heart as "irritable" after they've messed with it.
Jeff Williams Same here. At the 3 month mark, my resting heart rate dropped significantly. I'm approaching 4 months ... Read more
Jeff Williams Same here. At the 3 month mark, my resting heart rate dropped significantly. I'm approaching 4 months now and experiencing another drop.
Rita Savelis You are normal. Feel free to drink more coffee. Your heart rate should get lower as time goes by. You ... Read more
Rita Savelis You are normal. Feel free to drink more coffee. Your heart rate should get lower as time goes by. Your heart has been through a trauma - you can't see it, but it's doing the best it can to recover.
My cardiologist has given me the green light to stop using Metoprolol based on results of my post op echocardiogram, and review of my vitals (daily weight, ...Read more
My cardiologist has given me the green light to stop using Metoprolol based on results of my post op echocardiogram, and review of my vitals (daily weight, HR stability, BP etc.) since discharge. Anyone with real-life experience on what discontinuing this type of medicine does? Beta blockers are new to me (have typically run with low resting pulse and low blood pressure) so any insight would be helpful.
DeWayne Adamson Lucky for you! I have been on beta blockers for about 5 years. Hope to get off of them after surgery. ... Read more
DeWayne Adamson Lucky for you! I have been on beta blockers for about 5 years. Hope to get off of them after surgery. I am totally uses to them with no side effects other than hair loss.
Susan Lynn You'll probably have more energy! Good for you!
Rita Savelis Good for you! Almost all patients are given betablockers (which slow down your heart rate) for a few ... Read more
Rita Savelis Good for you! Almost all patients are given betablockers (which slow down your heart rate) for a few weeks/months after heart surgery so that their hearts can get a rest after the trauma of surgery. These drugs are also used to lower blood pressure. Betablockers can make some people (me) feel slow and unenergetic and depressed. Others do well on them or need to stay on them for various reasons. I was happy to stop them after a year. One other anecdote: sometimes actors/performers/people making speeches will take a betablocker to slow down their heart rate during their performance so that they feel less nervous. When our hearts beat fast it can make us feel nervous/fearful/panicked. So slowing the heart down gives the feeling of calm to someone with stage fright. It's always a good idea to ask your doctor why she/he is prescribing a drug for you. I keep a list and ask about them often (whether I can stop). Cardiology has A LOT of meds and one does not always need to stay on them forever. Take care.
Valerie Allen I have been on beta blockers for 20 years! For blood pressure and to keep Afib in check. I think weig ... Read more
Valerie Allen I have been on beta blockers for 20 years! For blood pressure and to keep Afib in check. I think weight gain is a side effect and perhaps some lethargy.
J Alexander Lassally Hi Raj - nice thing about beta blockers is you can take smaller doses as needed, so you could probabl ... Read more
J Alexander Lassally Hi Raj - nice thing about beta blockers is you can take smaller doses as needed, so you could probably keep reducing your intake and adjust to BP and how you feel - and titrate down. It is a flexible therapy. I like mine, personally as it keeps my heart rate a bit lower. I anticipate staying on it for some time (carvedilol).
I’m a bit over 2 weeks post-op and per PT (and cardio team) recommendations from last week, was given the green light to “increase exercise intensity within ...Read more
I’m a bit over 2 weeks post-op and per PT (and cardio team) recommendations from last week, was given the green light to “increase exercise intensity within pain tolerance”….so I decided to eschew the indoor bike and went outside for a bike ride as it was such a beautiful (Sun)day.
Impressions:
- surgery takes a lot out of you! Between the overall physical trauma, there is some serious musculoskeletal tweaking that occurred while I was prone on the operating table. The minimally invasive approach has afforded me good range of motion post-surgery, and the incision is healing very well, but the upper body connecting parts (shoulders, ribs etc.) will take a while to get back to normal I think - nightly stretching helps a ton - beta blockers are weird! I was put on Metoprolol post-surgery to prevent against arrhythmias (which I have not experienced yet). As such, my upper HR band is quite limited (~130s vs. easily 160s pre-surgery) so adapting to this new medicine is an interesting process (never rode my bike up a hill with a HR “governor” before … different types of muscle fatigue with this new wrinkle). I am hopeful that the docs can modify this dose or the actual drug - being outside is great, and I am ever grateful! My severe mitral valve regurgitation was caught by my excellent cardiologist as part of my yearly work-up. I am curious to see where I’ll settle in physically as the recovery progresses
Good luck to all those facing surgery soon…this is my week 3 and it’s startling how much better I feel vs. the first day+ in the ICU and step down unit. The body is an amazing machine….
Laurent G Thank you so much for your feedback Raj. I'm in line for a mitral valve repair and freaking out... On... Read more
Laurent G Thank you so much for your feedback Raj. I'm in line for a mitral valve repair and freaking out... One stupid question (not american or english) : is PT for Personal Trainer or is it something else ? Wish you the best for the future !
J Alexander Lassally Laurent - It is Physical Therapy - but the same thing, just more specific.
Thomas Brusstar The way my body healed after mitral valve repair was really energizing! It is amazing. Enjoy as you ... Read more
Thomas Brusstar The way my body healed after mitral valve repair was really energizing! It is amazing. Enjoy as you get stronger.
2 weeks post surgery now (mini for mitral valve repair)…I saw the medical staff for my first post-op check-up and all seems to be working…incision is healing, ...Read more
2 weeks post surgery now (mini for mitral valve repair)…I saw the medical staff for my first post-op check-up and all seems to be working…incision is healing, no material water retention (weight stabilizing to pre-op levels), heart rate stabilizing (maybe +10-15bp from what it was before - which was way low) and blood pressure in an ok range (ok, a little low but they think from the new daily dose Metropolol - which is a new med for me).
Per the guidance from my PT, I’ve also been encouraged to ride my indoor bike daily, ~30min with a cap at zone 2 (today I was in the 115-120bpm range as a frame of reference), in addition to outdoor walks when/where possible.
In today’s meeting with the medical and cardiac surgery staff, they also gave me the “ok to exercise at increased HR and use ‘pain as guide’ for intensity”. When I pressed for details, they indicated that this means I can go outside (Vs. indoor bike) and let the HR drift above zone 2 (for me that’s into the 140s/150s).
I finish the pain meds tonight and will likely return to the indoor bike again tomorrow for a longer (but still zone 2) session - no use pushing it as I am still building up my strength/getting lots of sleep in!
However, I am curious to hear from other valve patients on their return to “more rigorous” exercise given the guidance I’ve gotten above (“pain as guide”). I figure that means that if my HR drifts into zone 3 (say going up a hill on the route, or increasing resistance on the trainer) that’s ok? Any real life insight….I’m all ears (and in no rush, BTW to ramp up anything given that the seasons are turning here anyway and it’s time for base miles…)
Susan Lynn Raj - It sounds like you're making great progress. I would be checking your blood pressure before,... Read more
Susan Lynn Raj - It sounds like you're making great progress. I would be checking your blood pressure before, during, and after exercise, too. At cardiac rehab, we wore monitors that alerted the staff to any heart rate elevations or irregularities, and if our blood pressure was too high, we were asked to immediately stop any activity. We couldn't resume any exercise during the session until it came down. I was shocked on more than one occasion when I was told to stop due to elevated bp. Wishing you continued success with your recovery!
Thomas Brusstar I found the supervised rehab with a heart monitor helpful, just so I knew how hard I could push. The ... Read more
Thomas Brusstar I found the supervised rehab with a heart monitor helpful, just so I knew how hard I could push. They never told me I was pushing too hard. It gave me confidence.
How long does it take for resting pulse to settle back down to pre OHS levels? My RP has been low (40s) forever - given many decades of endurance sports. ...Read more
How long does it take for resting pulse to settle back down to pre OHS levels? My RP has been low (40s) forever - given many decades of endurance sports. It’s a little weird to see my baseline RP now in the 60s+. From what I understand, a higher RP post-surgery is par for the course given the trauma etc. associated with OHS (even if minimally invasive - as mine was), but I’m wondering what others have observed post-surgery. Thanks
yep I had surgery in september and myhr has been in the 60’s to mid 70’s like you b4 my pulse was ... Read more
yep I had surgery in september and myhr has been in the 60’s to mid 70’s like you b4 my pulse was around 45-54 depending but still having bp issues and that freaking pounding is crazy i got bovine valve so its not the clicking of mechanical valve anyway like you was hoping my hr went lower but guess not
J Alexander Lassally Hi Raj - not in the camp yet - but many many many folks have discussed the higher BP post surgery. I ... Read more
J Alexander Lassally Hi Raj - not in the camp yet - but many many many folks have discussed the higher BP post surgery. I think your heart is more efficient now, so it has to relearn what equilibrium is. Beta blockers are good for this if you have not discussed yet.
Deena Z Raj and Rob, start thinking months not weeks with BP or HR. It will be likely higher than pre-surger ... Read more
Deena Z Raj and Rob, start thinking months not weeks with BP or HR. It will be likely higher than pre-surgery for months. Mine took 9 months at the age of 63. Full recovery, minimally or not, takes about 12 months, unless really young. As Susan Lynn told me, the last “10 percent” improvement takes the most time. By 13 months my BP and HR were lower than pre-surgery. And I exercise a lot. My baseline was not as good as yours’ either
thanks
Rita Savelis The time varies, but your heart has been through a trauma and will not be back to "normal" immediatel ... Read more
Rita Savelis The time varies, but your heart has been through a trauma and will not be back to "normal" immediately no matter how great your pre-surgery shape was. Give your body some time. Every body's reaction is singular and personal.
Milestones…Post minimally invasive procedure for mitral valve repair…what are the typical milestones that folks crossed on their return to “normal”? ...Read more
Milestones…Post minimally invasive procedure for mitral valve repair…what are the typical milestones that folks crossed on their return to “normal”? And are there yardsticks of how one “ought” to be feeling/able to do 1 week out, 2 weeks out etc. in the general recovery process?
Richard Munson I think you are looking for a textbook results outline. You are probably not wanting my answer but i ... Read more
Richard Munson I think you are looking for a textbook results outline. You are probably not wanting my answer but i think that recovery from heart surgery depends totally on each individual persons body. What works for ana, may not work for richard. It might take you a longer or shorter time to return to your normal life for whatever reason. The way you feel after 2 weeks, may not be the way i felt. For better or worse.
Susan Eckermann I agree with Richard. Recovery is totally dependent on the individual. I can only speak from my own... Read more
Susan Eckermann I agree with Richard. Recovery is totally dependent on the individual. I can only speak from my own experience, plus what I've learned from others on this site , as well as my cardiac rehab classes, but I think the main thing to keep in mind is that no matter what surgery you have, you will need a lot of rest, exercise as prescribed/tolerable, good nutrition, and a positive mental attitude. There will be good days, and not so good days. I did find that keeping a schedule, for example, breakfast, shower, get dressed, exercise, nap, etc… worked well for me. Know that there will be good days and not so good days, but each day of recovery you are moving forward is a good thing.
Raj K Appreciate the comments from you both - especially on keeping a schedule as well as remembering what ... Read more
Raj K Appreciate the comments from you both - especially on keeping a schedule as well as remembering what “works/does-not” in term of quality of sleep, incision pain etc. It’s quite amazing though - the 80% of me that feels 100% would imply readiness for anything…but on those days when the other 20% of me is zero or negative, I realize the importance of rest, patience etc.
Richard Munson The 80% is what fuels the 20%. Remembering the 20% is what keeps you from overdoing it. My lifes less ... Read more
Richard Munson The 80% is what fuels the 20%. Remembering the 20% is what keeps you from overdoing it. My lifes lesson for the day. Not sure what i just said but it sounds good.
Ups + downs on recovery path…Hi, back home from hospital (8 days now since heart surgery) after minimally invasive mitral valve repair…they released me ...Read more
Ups + downs on recovery path…Hi, back home from hospital (8 days now since heart surgery) after minimally invasive mitral valve repair…they released me on the early side (<72 hours) after repair (not replace) and going in from the side (vs. down the middle). My question is for those further down the recovery path as me and your insight on the progress of recovery. Specifically, I feel that 80% of me feels like 100%…and there’s 20% that sometimes feels like 0% or less than zero (say -20%). Specifically, I heard some anecdotes that procedures through the side have the potential to cause more lingering nerve pain etc. especially for the narrower/smaller statured, given the path (through muscle, fat etc. right-to-left) of the surgical tools and drainage tube? Today was also the second day of an in-home visit from the PT nurse who worked my upper body/arms (lightly) with rubber bands and about 1/2 hour after he was done the static localized pain (top of chest etc.) was quite different/higher than days before, and not at all localized to the incision. Sound similar to anyone? I also made the mistake in hindsight in waiting until after the session to take my regular pain meds vs. managing the “break-through” earlier on. Any insight folks have - all ears.
Richard Munson It all sounds normal and will get better. 8 days is nothing. I had same procedure same pain for same ... Read more
Richard Munson It all sounds normal and will get better. 8 days is nothing. I had same procedure same pain for same reason.
Raj K Great insight thanks - yes, yesterday was definitely a “step back” in terms of pain management bu ... Read more
Raj K Great insight thanks - yes, yesterday was definitely a “step back” in terms of pain management but today dawns better. Have to remember to pace myself through the PT. As a lifetime endurance athlete, I am somewhat comfortable with discomfort, but have to remember that the ticker went through a lot of trauma a week+ ago.
Marie Myers Like Richard said, 8 days is very early in your recovery. I was still feeling emotional, and feeling ... Read more
Marie Myers Like Richard said, 8 days is very early in your recovery. I was still feeling emotional, and feeling a bit weak at this stage of recovery. As time went on, i started feeling more confident, stronger, and wanting to do more. I started cardiac rehab at 3 weeks, and by that time the various aches and pains were pretty much gone. Taking a pain med prior to PT is a very good idea since they will be pushing you more than you might do yourself. Godspeed in your recovery
Susan Lynn I had a minimally-invasive mitral valve repair, too. Eight days is really early into recovery. A... Read more
Susan Lynn I had a minimally-invasive mitral valve repair, too. Eight days is really early into recovery. Aside from walking a few short distances a day, I wasn't doing any upper body exercises at that time. I also had a five pound lifting restriction for two months.
As far as the nerve regeneration goes, I had numbness for quite awhile, but over the first year of recovery, I also had pins and needle sensations along with occasional sharp pains in the area of my entry incision and back. It was tolerable, but served as a reminder of my procedure.
I always say, I felt about 95% recovered in two weeks, but that last 5% took a long time. My main complaint was the extreme fatigue. I had days where my energy was good, but others when I was simply exhausted.
Recovery takes time. Remember, even though we had mini-thoracotomies, the surgery itself is the same as those through the sternum. We also are faced with recovering from the bypass access in our femoral arteries - an additional incision site that the isn't required for other entries.
I would choose the mini-t again, if I had to do it over, but it is open heart surgery and it takes time to recover fully from it. Take your time and don't rush it. A day of overdoing it, can set your progress back by several days. Best of luck to you!